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What are the struggles you've encountered when picking a new place to visit and live in for a while?


by @andreadardon 9yr  | 10 comments

With my boyfriend weโ€™ve been traveling through Europe since July. We try to make a month at a time and the last place we got to was Cluj-Napoca, Romania. We soon realized that itโ€™s not a good place to find short term leases. Weโ€™ve usually done Airbnbs, but in that city they all seemed overpriced. After talking to some Real Estate agencies we found a place that we could rent for a month. They usually rent to students, but since itโ€™s the end of the semester, it could be rented for just that month. The apartment, however, didnโ€™t have internet.
We notice how hard it is to find places that will meet our โ€œdigital nomadโ€ needs: the city, if itโ€™s walkable, short term leases, fast and reliable internet, if it has a place to work like coworking spaces nearby, or if the apartment wonโ€™t drive you crazy if you stay in all day (in Spain every apartment we went to seemed to have construction going on somewhere close).
What are your struggles when finding a place in a new city?

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my major struggles have usually been finding adequate short term rentals especially when I was in Canada and both decent internet quality and an accessible router/modem to reset or fix things myself if anything goes wrong.

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@yivva 9yr

Short term accommodation is often a problem for us also, not hard to find but usually much more expensive when only for one month. and we never find any good deals on airbnb so gave up on that one.

We have found it easier recently to make somewhere a base for three months and travel/explore from there. Then properly move every three months and do the same with that new location as our new central point. Works out better financially and is nice not to have to pack up everything we own all the time (not that thereโ€™s much stuff anyway)

Other struggles we have found is air quality. I noticed this has been mentioned on here a few times, but didnโ€™t even consider it a major problem until we stayed in Hanoi in July this year. It was something we didnโ€™t look up until we arrived and then were very disappointed. My friend there was constantly struggling to breath when he was outside. No amount of cheap beer / accommodation is worth that!

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@vong 9yr

[quote=โ€œyivva, post:3, topic:5490โ€]
Other struggles we have found is air quality. I noticed this has been mentioned on here a few times, but didnโ€™t even consider it a major problem until we stayed in Hanoi in July this year. [/quote]

Clean air is one of those things you donโ€™t miss until itโ€™s not there!

Had to don N95 masks for an extended period due to haze in Singapore & Beijing, and it really makes you feel like crap. No outdoor activities + constant anxiety and guilt that youโ€™re killing your lungs.

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Iโ€™ve never even thought of air quality! Iโ€™d look more into it when picking a new place!

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@kathrynoh 9yr

Iโ€™ve definitely had struggles with accommodation. Partly my fault from not understanding my own needs (eg. itโ€™s better and probably cheaper to get a place with a decent work area than have to go out to cafes โ€“ definitely cheaper in the long term when I need to pay for massages to fix my back!)

The other side of it is having issues with Airbnb. Itโ€™s getting to be a bit of a joke when I post on social media yet again about the problems. One of the factors that makes it difficult is that the reviews on the site are often veered towards the overly positive or give scant information. Photos and the description can only tell you so much and itโ€™d be nice to get the full picture. The nearby construction work is a good example of that โ€“ Iโ€™d want to know before I booked a place.

I think Airbnb facilitates that too. Iโ€™ve noticed when I get the โ€˜please reviewโ€™ emails their wording is about giving feedback to the host when I think itโ€™s as important, if not more so, to provide a clear picture to future guests. I always try to be well rounded when I write reviews for that reason and, obviously, some things that would be a huge issue for digital nomads are not going to be factor at all for a tourist in town for a few days and only in the place to sleep.

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I know exactly what you mean with the reviews being overly positive. I get it, when you personally meet the people who are your hosts, it gets harder to say bad things about them. I recently had a problem with a place in London, the hosts decided to remodel the house on our last week of a month long stay. We complained to Airbnb who later declined our complaint because the host โ€œdid tell us they would do the remodeling worksโ€ even though they told us the day before. The hosts where nice people, but on my review I had to tell the truth. After that I received a very nasty message from them.
Itโ€™s hard to pick a place, since most reviews are very nice and you trust them. Then if you want to help the community and say things as they are on your review, you get harassed verbally by the hosts, who had agreed to a system in which they could get bad reviews.
But youโ€™re also right about our needs not being the same as to those of a regular tourist, on this same place when we complained about the internet not being strong in our room, the host quickly said no one had ever complained about it. No one had ever needed the internet as much as we did.

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@kathrynoh 9yr

Iโ€™ve had really good experiences with Airbnb when Iโ€™ve had to contact them with issues. They even compensated me for a hotel stay when I had to get out of one place.

One thing though, if you have issues during a stay that means you have to cancel your booking, you are unable to leave a review. There is just the comment added that you cancelled the booking but that could mean it was cancelled prior to your stay, because you found somewhere else or a number of other factors.

Itโ€™s really bad that the host harassed you. I had one host get very passive aggressive because I had to move out and cancel my booking. It was all in the reviews though and I figure they did themselves more harm by posting something like that.

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@db8871 9yr

my major struggle is making new local friends, which is the reason I tend to stay long term in the same place, or come back to he same places.

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@kathrynoh 9yr

I think returning to familiar places can be helpful for a lot of the initial struggles. I was recently in Tokyo, where I used to live, and found I was a lot more productive than I have been in cities that are new to me. Thereโ€™s none of that settling period while you try to orientate yourself with the city, work out public transport and set up the essentials.

Of course, Iโ€™d never want to just keep returning to the same places constantly so the ideal is have a good mix of old and new.

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That is a real struggle! How much time do you usually stay in one place, out of curiosity?

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What are the best places right now in the Caribbean/LatAM? (Also cheapest flights/accommodation?) Asking from the US.

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As part of signing up for this website I was hoping I would come across a list of Visa and/or Residency requirements by country ideally in a table format to assist with decision making. Does anybody recommend any other websites that might present the information in this format (or Google Spreadsheet)?

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I love living in walkable areas of town. I can always find them. But now I'm wondering where in the world are the most walkable places? I'm imagining walk streets (no cars), zoning allowing both business and residential, parks or beaches ,etc.

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Hi guys,

After the Netherlands, the Bay Area, Colorado and being on the van life for 8 months, I am now in Sedona, AZ with a few other digital nomads. We are sharing a home here and are wondering if there are more like minded people in the area.

We do a bunch of hikes and campouts in the northern of Arizona. If you would like to connect with us, please do so :)

Val

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International number & internet?


by @leobassam 3yr 3 years ago  | 1 comment

Has anyone figured out a way to get setup with a virtual number and internet connection anywhere you go?

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Hi everybody. I live and work in Germany and want to go to Canary Islands for 6 months to work from there. I'm going to keep my current job, just change the "home" in the home office part of things. Are there any tax issues I have to be aware of? I was reading about becoming a residence after 183 days, thus having to pay taxes there plus my employer having to register there. Does anybody know how it works exactly? Thanks a lot!

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Chiang Mai accommodation


in Chiang Mai , Thailand by @bertieb 3yr 3 years ago  | 0 comments

Can anyone recommend a good accommodation website for Chiang Mai?

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Is anyone travelling right now?


by @viktor 3yr 3 years ago  | 3 comments

Winter is coming and Iโ€™m feeling the ache of travelling after being stuck in the same place since the Pandemic started. Wondering if anyone is travelling right now? If so, where are you currently located and how is the situation where you are?

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How do you track the total number of days you've spent in different countries?


by @gonchs 5yr 5 years ago  | 12 comments

How do you track a total number of days youโ€™ve spent in different countries during the past 12 months?

I find it to be important for visa and tax purposes to know how long and where Iโ€™ve been and Iโ€™m unable to find any software that solves this.

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by @octavient 7yr 7 years ago  | 8 comments

Has anybody ever encountered a travel gear manufacturer that makes gear that is solid and durable, but that is intentionally designed to look old and crappy? For international travel, I want good, durable gear, but Iโ€™m uncomfortable walking around with slick, brand-new-looking, expensive-looking gear (especially with my family in tow). Iโ€™m happy to snatch up any good used gear (reduce, reuse, recycle) that weโ€™re lucky enough to encounter, but selection is limited, and durability is often compromised. Seems like thereโ€™d be a decent market for some durable but ragged-looking travel gear. What i have in mind is luggage, backpacks, laptop cases, smartphone cases, camera bags, infant/toddler carriers, etc. Iโ€™m sensitive to the preppy fad of clueless, well-off westerners dressing up like the poor in naive but trendy mockery, but thatโ€™s not what Iโ€™m after, here. I just want good gear that doesnโ€™t put a target on my back as we traipse around various parts of the world. Anybody have any thoughts on thisโ€ฆ?

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How do you pick a place to stay for a while?


by @cs340 8yr 8 years ago  | 3 comments

Iโ€™ve been a long term traveler for years. Iโ€™ve hit a bit of a rut, burnt out, not productive, not making money right now, and airbnb prices have just gone insane. I probably need to commit to some place now just for a bit but canโ€™t get myself to do it. Itโ€™s partly I donโ€™t know where exactly (there are many places I would like to live), I donโ€™t want to get stuck in one spot, and the fact Iโ€™m currently not making money. Iโ€™m sure there are tons of commitment phobes here, how do you get over just pick a place? Iโ€™ve honestly just been hanging out at dadโ€™s house for last few weeks in what was originally supposed to be a one or two day stay not being able to commit to anything and just overwhelmed.

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What are the best AirBnB houses you've been in Europe?


by @carlien 8yr 8 years ago  | 4 comments

At the moment Iโ€™m scouting AirBnB for a good place to stay for september. Which houses have you been & can you recommend? Iโ€™m looking at all kinds of locations.

Thanks in advance!

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Do any nomads work for a while then just travel for a while?


by @isabellabrookes 8yr 8 years ago  | 12 comments

Iโ€™m just curious as to other nomadโ€™s lifestyles.

Most nomads seem to work constantly (either for others or themselves) and I was curious as to whether anyone works for a few months and then travels for a few months without working.

That would be my ideal schedule, just curious as to what you do and who you are! :smiley:

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