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Any nomads working for the big 5 tech companies?


by @andrewkennedy | 4yr  | 13 comments

I currently work at one of the big 5 tech companies (Google, Apple, Microsoft, Facebook, Amazon), at the main campus as a software engineer. I was wondering if any nomads work remotely for said companies and how you came to that arrangement. Working for myself or moving to a smaller company that has mostly remote work seems less desirable than maintaining access to all the resources I have internal to my company.

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@amirrafiepour | 3yr

Iโ€™m just curious, did you end up nomading? Iโ€™m working for The Big Blue and Iโ€™m leaving home this December. Tell me about your experience :slight_smile:

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@joe | 4yr

I donโ€™t work for a โ€œBig 5โ€, but currently work remotely as a Software Engineer for a Fortune 50 (and have experience at a very well known, non Big 5, SV tech firm). If youโ€™re concerned about advancing your career, getting a โ€œBig 5โ€ on your resume opens lots of doors. Not to mention, I find the work way more interesting than โ€œyet another CRUD appโ€, and the internal resources are definitely a plus.

My company is huge with lots of teams/departments. Some teams are way more amenable to remote work, others are a bit more conservativeโ€ฆit all depends on the manager. The team I work on is about 70% remote. Because we arenโ€™t based out of a tech hub city, and our work requires specialized engineers, we were forced to open our hiring pool to remote workers. It works really well most of the time, but some things are just better when everyoneโ€™s in the same room. For these things, weโ€™ll plan to meet in a central location every couple months.

I like to settle in one place for a year, and then move, so it isnโ€™t much of a problem for me, but it definitely cuts down on the places I can travel. Western Europe and South America are ok, but Asia/Australia are just too far to make this feasible. Still have lots of options though.

Iโ€™d absolutely stay at your Big 5, but start talking to other managers/teams and try and find a team that embraces remote work, and then try and transfer there after youโ€™ve proved yourself on your current team. If that doesnโ€™t lead anywhere, after a year or 2 at the Big 5, youโ€™ll honestly be able to chose any job you wantโ€ฆjust search for remote jobs that sound interesting.

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@andrewkennedy | 4yr

Thank you for this advice! Been a while since Iโ€™ve signed on here, but thereโ€™s a lot of good insight here. Iโ€™m probably gonna stick with working at my company for a year or two, because of the job options in the future that you mentioned. I just donโ€™t want to miss an opportunity to be nomadic which is perhaps easier to do the earlier in my 20s that I am.

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@wanderingdev | 4yr

eh. age doesnโ€™t matter that much. iโ€™m in my 40s and nomadic.

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@travelingpm | 4yr

I worked for Amazon for 10yrs as a program manager. They offered a few remote positions (US based), but were not open to me hopping around to various countries. The biggest hurdles for them and most other large corporations isnโ€™t management or HR, rather legal and tax. They canโ€™t sponsor your work visa in a country they donโ€™t operate in, nor would they want to open a tax nexus in that country.

For what itโ€™s worth, Iโ€™ve been out of the Zon for a year now and still believe it was a great decision to work for myself.

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@vfonic | 4yr

I worked for Microsoft, but not remotely. In order to go remotely, I quit my job.

However, you donโ€™t have to do it. As long as they let you work remotely, why would you quit?

I know a guy from Amazon who is working remotely. He made it happen by becoming irreplaceable. Heโ€™s the key to the project his team is working on and guys know if he leaves they will be in trouble. Thatโ€™s why they let him work remotely.

As Tim Ferriss suggests in โ€œ4 hour work weekโ€, talk with your manager and ask him to do a trial run of working remotely 4 days a week (or similar) for two weeks. Prove you can deliver more from home than from the office and ask for more freedom.

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@hupineapple | 4yr

I know someone who worked for Google and worked remotely for months at a time or took several month sabbaticals to travel. He had been with Google for 5+ years, and I think these were measures his manager took to keep him from leaving.

In my opinion, youโ€™re correct about the scale of problems in relation to remote work. There might be some jobs out there that allow for both remote work and the type of problems youโ€™re looking to solve, but they are much rarer than what you can find working on premises.

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@nealbozeman | 4yr

I have a friend located in Brasov, Romania, Romanian wife and family, works for IBM in New York. Great lifestyle and transitioned organically. Must live like royalty here. Why wouldnโ€™t you work for a large international remotely?

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@wanderingdev | 4yr

Iโ€™m curious why it seems less desirable.

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@andrewkennedy | 4yr

To put it simply, I get to work on problems at a scale that isnโ€™t really achievable anywhere else. Where you measure users in billions, data in petabytes, etc. Access to internal research is also pretty nice to really stay on the cutting edge of whatโ€™s happening in computer science. The only disadvantage is having to be in one place.

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@stratigos | 4yr

I fail to see how this is not compatible with working remotely. Does your โ€œbig 5โ€ have poor security, or inadequate resources available for connecting remotely?

While I left the corporate world a while ago, I have done plenty of remote work for some of the biggest companies in the world, and had access to anything I wanted whenever I wanted it. My decade of doing such work showed me that the corporate types want you working under any possible condition, which = working remotely when youre sick. Thus, anything available to you in the office is available at home (except perhaps your favorite stapler).

BTW there are many tech companies much larger than those โ€œbig 5โ€, those just have the biggest branding towards millennialsโ€ฆ

Also, staying on the โ€œcutting edgeโ€ of computer science does not imply one must be some sort of company man. Technical nomadism is the cutting edge of computer science. Your own research is the cutting edge of computer science. Working on open source projects is the cutting edge of computer science. Dont let yourself get brainwashed by corporate culture.

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@wanderingdev | 4yr

Interesting. Itโ€™s about personal preferences then because for me being mobile far outweighs any of that. :slight_smile: Personally Iโ€™ve never met someone working remotely for any of those companies and Iโ€™ve been doing this for quite a while.

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@andrewkennedy | 4yr

Yeah, I have been recently hired so I may stick around for a while, but becoming a digital nomad is very appealing. Might be worth giving up the stability one day.

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How do you ensure that you have good WiFi for working whilst travelling e.g. in places like India?

 

in India by @davda1546 | 2d 1 day ago | 1 comment

We are hoping to travel later this year and we will be working remotely - how do you ensure you get good WiFi in places such as in India where the signal isn't always great? Do you have any tips on where to go/ what equipment you have to get?

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Any attorneys working remotely?


by @rohitsn | 26d 26 days ago | 3 comments

Transactional Attorney with a focus on US Immigration. Burnt out doing the law firm thing. Trying to leverage skill to get on this digital nomad tip. Love the traveling experience, hostels, seeing new places, new cocktails etc etc.

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Any nomads working on startups?

 

by @mattlock | 3mo 2 months ago | 33 comments

Hoping to see all the cool stuff people are working on while they live an extraordinary life.

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What have been your biggest challenges working remotely in your team?


by @wanderer | 3mo 2 months ago | 2 comments

My interest in DN lifestyle started when half of our company have been taking 1 month for remote work @ Ko Samui. It was truly cool but we observed quite some communication challenges. Communication seemed just โ€œriskierโ€ when online.

What were your worst situations caused by misunderstanding while communicating online with your teammates? What do you do to avoid misunderstandings?

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Does international health insurance for digital nomads exist?

 

by @al_steffen | 4mo 3 months ago | 59 comments

Hey Nomads!

Iโ€™m looking for an international health insurance (no travel insurance) for my nomadic life. It should cover the basic services and at least be accepted in the EU (itโ€™s ok if itโ€™s not accepted in the US as Iโ€™m aware they rarely are). Nice to have: enter into a contract online. Anyone got a good experience or a recommendation?

Thanks in advance!

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How do digital nomads pay tax?


by @rodriigovieira | 6mo 5 months ago | 19 comments

Hello everyone! Iโ€™m new here and probably this is a very newbie question, but it doesnโ€™t leave my head.

How do you, nomads, pay your taxes? I mean, if youโ€™re constantly traveling, how are you going to pay taxes for a certain country if you are going to stay there a short period of time?
Or do you return to your โ€œoriginal countryโ€ and then pay them?

By the way, this forum has very nice cool formatting features! :smile:

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Anyone know an accountant for Canadian nomads/expats?


by @noam_lightstone | 6mo 6 months ago | 16 comments

Hey guys, this was my first year as a Canadian nomad.

As far as I know of, Canadians donโ€™t pay taxes if they do not live in the country for 6 months.

But Iโ€™d like to talk to an accountant or someone who does Canadian taxes specifically for expats and nomads to get clear on the rules and for help on my return coming up.

Does anyone know someone who specializes in Canada who can help? Iโ€™ve seen plenty of US recommendations but none for us canucks.

Thanks guys!

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Where are the nomads in Mexico City?


in Mexico City, Mexico by @shellyfish | 8mo 7 months ago | 9 comments

I just landed as a n00b digital nomad in Mexico City, and I am wonderingโ€ฆ Where are all the international digital nomads hiding around here? I have been to several coworking spaces (Selina etc.) only to find A LOT of local Mexican workers and businesses. Donโ€™t get me wrong, that is all fine, but I was hoping to meet some international nomads! Any advice?

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How do we solve housing for digital nomads?

 

by @levelsio | 8mo 7 months ago | 61 comments

Thereโ€™s been a lot of discussion on this recently.

Nomads usually stay in hostels, hotels and short-term apartments. But itโ€™s all not very optimal.

Iโ€™ve heard people suggest getting funding and building a network of houses you can stay at for a subscription price (e.g. Bruno Haid is working on that).

I donโ€™t want do physical stuff, so Iโ€™m thinking of building a platform around making housing better for nomads.

What are the housing problems nomads face? And how can we solve them with products/services?

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App/tool/service for nomads to bring things from another country?


by @brmolin | 9mo 9 months ago | 4 comments

I vaguely remember hearing about such a service before, but Iโ€™m drawing a blank on the name. Basically I left my tablet on a connecting flight in Europe, right before my main flight to Thailand. They have my tablet and are willing to ship it out for me, but people have warned me thereโ€™s a big risk of it getting โ€œlost in the mailโ€ if I ship something expensive like that to Thailand.

Iโ€™m wondering if thereโ€™s a service or community, where I can find a nomad whoโ€™s in Europe/heading to Thailand soon, so I can have it shipped to them in Europe and pay them to ferry it down here for me? I met someone in Budapest a ways back who had built something for this type of use-case, but I canโ€™t remember the name of it. Any help would be appreciated!

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Are there any nomads from India?

 

in India by @ankitdas123 | 9mo 9 months ago | 56 comments

I have seen a lot of posts from different people across the world, but not even a single post from someone in India, who has been a nomad, either living within the country or traveling to another one.

Would definitely love to hear stories from such people. We are a couple traveling as social nomads who are trying to bridge the gap between the rural and urban societies in India. We have started out very humble and do not have much resources, so looking out for help from the community.

Ankit & Rishika
Around Love and Life

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How is Sicily for digital nomads?


by @gaelm | 9mo 9 months ago | 15 comments

Hi all, I was looking for a cool spot in Southern Europe for winter and Iโ€™m considering Sicilyโ€ฆ Have you ever been there? If yes, how was your experience? If not, why?
thanks!

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How is Bari, Italy for digital nomads?


in Bari, Italy by @mitch_dina | 9mo 9 months ago | 7 comments

Greetings!
Does anyone have experience in Bari, Italy please? We are thinking of going from Dubrovnik, Croatia to Bari by boat in mid-March. Has anyone taken a boat across? Is it nice or can it be choppy? (We are trying to avoid planes, to reduce our carbon footprint, so adding more surface travel.) Also, any info you might be able to offer about Bari and the surrounds? Next step will likely be trains up Italy as the Spring progresses.

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How is Mauritius for digital nomads?


in Mauritius by @wakkos | 10mo 10 months ago | 14 comments

Hello all,

Iโ€™m planning on spending a couple of month in Mauritius Island and even when Iโ€™ve been there for a week, never rented or worked there.

Does anyone here has tips or experience to share about Mauritius?

Cheers!

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Best way to connect with "local" nomads using Nomadlist?


by @migueltic | 11mo 10 months ago | 4 comments

Hi, Iโ€™ve seen that Nomad List offers different options that could work for connecting with other nomads that are in the same place as me (forum, Slack, user maps, matches and maybe even more options I havenโ€™t seen), but Iโ€™m not sure what is the best/recommended way to use all these options.

Should I use all of them? Start with a message in the forum and/or Slack?

Sending private messages to a lot of people feels a little bit โ€œaggressiveโ€. And matches are not based on current location if I understood it correctly.

By the way, I just arrived at Budapest :slight_smile:

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Best American phone carrier for nomads


by @tylertringas | 11mo 10 months ago | 12 comments

Iโ€™m surprised this isnโ€™t anywhere on the forum yet. But just a pro tip for Americans about to start a nomad adventure. T-mobile offers unlimited SMS & data in 120 countries for FREE with any of their (already pretty cheap) plans. Itโ€™s ideal if you plan to be back in the US for any part of the year, but I honestly would consider it even if youโ€™re going to be entirely out of the country.

You get bumped down to much slower 3G speeds, but itโ€™s free and works as soon as you land. Can be super helpful before youโ€™ve sorted yourself out with a local SIM. I usually keep my T-mobile SIM in my iPhone all the time and then buy a local SIM and drop it in my pocket wifi for both laptop and iPhone when needed. I keep my local US number and just use it (itโ€™s like $0.05/min in most places) for important clients calls so they donโ€™t have to bother with Skype.

Iโ€™m not affiliated at all, just a happy customer. Anybody found a better deal worth mentioning?

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Property Ownership - should digital nomads buy properties?


by @sparrow_23 | 1yr 1 year ago | 16 comments

I have been a digital nomad for the last couple of years. I have always worked in tech and now run a couple of profitable online businesses that give me a reliable income and allow me to fund a nomadic lifestyle.

I recently exited one of my businesses and I am considering to invest the income from the sale in properties, mainly for 2 reasons:

a) I donโ€™t want to keep wasting my money in renting apartments across the cities I stay

b) I believe in properties as investment and I want to diversify my investment portfolio (mainly stocks)

After years of constant wander from one place to another, now I am the type of digital nomad who sticks to few locations: I mainly rotate across 4 places each year (San Francisco, Medellin, Berlin, Bali). Buying a house in each of those location would be difficult and too expensive. Therefore, I was wondering if there was any sort of service that combines an investment opportunity with the ability to access different properties around the world (even if just for a limited time per year) ?

Imagine living in 4 cities per year and having a house in each place that you can exclusively use for 3 months and at the same time having your investment growing (this depending on the market, of course). Wouldnโ€™t that be great? I believe it could be done via a property fund selling you a share and giving you access to some of their properties for a limited timeframe each year.

Has anyone heard of anything like that?

Thanks!

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Apple TV and Netflix: Do these work for Nomads?


by @lricci | 1yr 1 year ago | 8 comments

We launch in 2 weeks. In the US, we use Apple TV and Netflix regularly. Do these work abroad?

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Co-working space in Shanghai WITHOUT monthly payment


in Shanghai, China by @katrin | 1yr 1 year ago | 0 comments

Daily/hourly pass needed.
Canโ€™t work in normal cafรฉ because having clientโ€™s laptop for security reasons, canโ€™t use open networks. Working for R&D. Also laptop is so huge it doesnโ€™t fit normal cafe environment because itโ€™s far from discreet.

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Do any digital nomads travely solely by motorcycle?


by @fraserdeans | 1yr 1 year ago | 10 comments

Last summer I spent some time travelling through Thailand and Cambodia and jumped on mopeds to get around. I fell in love with them, the freedom, the ability to get off the tourist trail and see areas of a country not written about in tour books.

Recently a friend of mine cycled from London through Western Europe down to Morocco. His journey, stories and photo blog have all inspired me to see Europe by road rather than missing it all by plane.

Iโ€™ve been encouraged to do the same longer term through Europe. Next month Iโ€™m heading off to Spain to start that journey.

I was wondering if any nomads here are on similar journeys? Does anyone motorcycle between cities setting up to work for a couple weeks then moving on?

If so, have you got any advice/tips for someone just starting that journey?

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