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Anyone know an accountant for Canadian nomads/expats?


by @noam_lightstone | 5yr  | 16 comments

Hey guys, this was my first year as a Canadian nomad.

As far as I know of, Canadians donโ€™t pay taxes if they do not live in the country for 6 months.

But Iโ€™d like to talk to an accountant or someone who does Canadian taxes specifically for expats and nomads to get clear on the rules and for help on my return coming up.

Does anyone know someone who specializes in Canada who can help? Iโ€™ve seen plenty of US recommendations but none for us canucks.

Thanks guys!

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@blueblueocean - I didnโ€™t even know there was such a thing as a tax lawyer/that could be an option. Messaged you.

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@pablo | 9mo

Hi Noam, I just came across this thread while searching for a Canadian accountant who can help me figure out a strategy that works for my current digital nomad lifestyle. Were you able to find someone knowledgable and reliable?

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@blueblueocean | 5yr

My experience is most accountants or lawyers know only Canadian system and so is only 50% of the picture. Also I believe a tax lawyer is more useful than an accountant. And thirdly, they all charge an arm and a leg for giving you an opinion, of which only a legal opinion might be useful to protect you in terms of what you ultimately do. Also lawyers protect your privacy.

Msg me and Iโ€™ll share some of my research links. I am not 100% sure on any of them but you have to trust your intuition I guess.

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@vladepap | 5yr

Good topic. Iโ€™m in the same situation, Canadian nomad.

My own struggle is to figure out where to put my money (the whole financial aspect of nomadry makes me stick my head in the sand).

I also have a European citizenship, but not clear as to how to proceed, as I have no idea where I will be in 3 or 6 months, let alone where I want to retireโ€ฆ

Quite the niche market for accountants.

Keep us posted on your developments!

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Hey guys just wanted to update.

After taking to an accountant, the answer is โ€œit dependsโ€. You pretty much need to work with them and see if youโ€™d be able to claim non-residency based on factors like time outside of country, spouse/kids there, etc.etc.

So Iโ€™d say try to find someone who can help you but if youโ€™re single and mostly living outside Canada, youโ€™ll most likely be able to be tax-free.

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@bavals | 5yr

So how does one go about finding a Canadian accountant versed in this type of issues?

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Hook-ups is one way (my friend sent me his, but wouldnโ€™t be cool with me sharing everywhere so Iโ€™m not posting public info).

I did a search for accountants + expat + canada on Google and e-mailed a bunch. I got 10 responses back. They want to help you (/take your money lol).

Try to find one that will give you at least some basic advice via e-mail for free. If they insist on charging $500 for a simple question or wonโ€™t even give you the time of day, next them. Tons out there.

Just like us we have to be stringent on our time, but thereโ€™s also being a ****.

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@krysta | 5yr

Hey @noam_lightstone - fellow Canadian here - Iโ€™m working in Malaysia for a company and am contacting an accountant back home in BC in the next couple months who may be useful - Iโ€™ll keep you posted :smile:

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@sarahpeterson | 5yr

Iโ€™d love to know if you find one! Iโ€™m from BC too and Iโ€™ve had a HARD time finding the right accountant.

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Hey @sarahpeterson.

Like I said above a fellow Canadian nomad shared his with me, but told me explicitly not to give out contact informationโ€ฆ hate to be a tease/that guy, but donโ€™t want to piss them off.

Google search has lots of accountants for expats :).

Basically what I found out though was you need to declare you arenโ€™t a resident for one tax return (e.g. when you start being a nomad), and from there, you just need to work with your accountant. I donโ€™t think itโ€™s worth the hassle to figure this out on our own, pay someone to deal with it.

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Thanks @krysta! Iโ€™m supposed to talk with my Canadian nomad friendโ€™s accountant this or next week so Iโ€™ll post my findings too!

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@blueblueocean | 5yr

Itโ€™s mostly complicated in Canada because the country has a very draconian tax system that essentially is stacked in the governmentโ€™s favour. They can look at your situation and try to claim whatever is to their benefit. Since the rules for many issues are subjective and can go either way based on what a judge might rule, it creates great stress and waste of time on nomads. I donโ€™t like these kinds of systems. Also, Canada is one of the few countries that has a departure tax. So even if you become a nomad and break all ties, you are โ€œdeemedโ€ to have sold all your investments and even your own private business. This is even though no money has changed hands and no sale occurred. You then have to post money to them just to leave which as far as I can determine you might never get back since one might never sell oneโ€™s business - would you sell a profitable business just to get your cash back and then lose all future cash-flows? Essentially the country runs a very protective and isolated system that tries to make it difficult, time consuming, and stressful to get out of it. This is one of my major considerations when choosing a residence, how friendly is the country during my stay and how friendly is it should I choose to move somewhere else?

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Thanks for the info @adamsimms and @blueblueocean. Still searching for accountants but will again, post here.

From what Iโ€™ve heard itโ€™s so grey and impossible to state clearly - itโ€™s all case by case.

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@bavals | 5yr

I am Canadian as well. I am no tax expert, but my understanding is that to get out of the obligation to pay taxes in Canada you have to take very drastic steps:

  1. Cut all your ties to Canada. Close bank accounts, cancel your credit cards, sell any property, etc. Obviously, forgo your provincial health insurance. Also, promise to RC that you really do not expect to live in Canada in the foreseeable future. If you donโ€™t do that, theyโ€™ll consider your move temporary. They even say you have to cut most of your social ties, but that just sounds incredibly intrusive and, in any case, unverifiable (although a spouse living in Canada will probably scupper the whole deal).

  2. Establish residence (+ tax residence) elsewhere and be able to provide proof of it (lease, bank account, voter card, tax payer ID, etc).

Unless you are ready to do 1 + 2, I think youโ€™re on the hook, even if you donโ€™t show up in your home country for years. Sorry to disappoint you! If โ€œleavingโ€ was as easy as spending 6 months elsewhere, I think weโ€™d have a huge number of Canadians roaming the world.

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Thanks for the reply @bisonravi.

I didnโ€™t think it was that complicated but Iโ€™m searching for an accountant still to give me the 411.

Iโ€™ll post any info I find out.

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@adamsimms | 5yr

@noam_lightsone Itโ€™s rather complicated. Itโ€™s not simply being outside the country for six months, but an evaluation your ties with Canada. This involves property, automobiles, bank accounts, investments, and the list goes on by the CRA. This is a good resource that will get you started: http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/tx/nnrsdnts/cmmn/rsdncy-eng.html

As for finding an accountant, I suggest you start looking in the Freshbooks database: https://www.freshbooks.com/accountants/map

My advice is to find an accountant who is very familiar with Canadians living abroad; otherwise, it can become very frustrating for future tax submissions in Canada.

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