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What are good ski towns for digital nomads?


by @andrewdblevins | 5yr  | 9 comments

It looks like most people on here tend to go to the more tropical locations, has anyone done the opposite? Any digital nomad ski-bums out there? I would love to hear your stories.

Where are the good Ski-towns, with slopes, powder, cheap living and good wifi? About how much will it cost? What is the best way to get short term housing in a ski-town during ski season?

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@essence | 5yr

Bansko, Bulgaria is on the cheaper side of everything mentioned above. Decent accommodation starts at 30 โ‚ฌ/night for a double room and monthly rents at 200โ‚ฌ for a studio and around 300-350 for a two bedroom. A day pass is 30โ‚ฌ, 20 days 400, full season 750. Restaurant prices varies widely. I used to eat where ski instructors do, good food for around 5-8โ‚ฌ (salad/soup plus a meaty main course pork, chicken, trout), regular places should feed you for 10-20โ‚ฌ. Bar prices also vary but you can find basic local beer for 1-2โ‚ฌ, 50ml of liquor - around 3โ‚ฌ. Just go where the instructors go :smile: People are kind and warm and you will easily find friends to hang out and ride with. Hot mineral outdoor pools 4 km from Bansko also do wonders.
A lot of foreigners around, not too hard to get by with english.
Cons:
No freeride (off piste) policy due to poor ski zone management (mafia, mainly caring about money :). But we still do it. There are occasional patrols who would wait some of the days at the end of famous freeride routes and collect โ€œviolatorsโ€ ski passes, but the rumors move fast so if you get connected, you will know. Anyway, you do those only with a buddy, knowledge and proper equipment.
I would get bored for a full season, but Iโ€™ve been there a whole lot already.
Snow conditions vary, due to changing weather worldwide. From epic powder weeks (used to get up to 3-3.5m of snow when i was there) to just not enough to go off piste without the risk of hitting something.
If you want something epic, head to the Alps or Tahoe (I love Tahoe, havent been to the Alps). If your budget is tight - Bansko :smile:

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@asin.sam | 4yr

I have been thinking more and more about skiing because of the Canada thread and I stumbled on this thread. I want to bring it back if possible! Anyone else have ideas for good, inexpensive ski places around the world? I was looking into Sarajevo anyways and I know they hosted the winter olympics and have skiing around. @dianabaz or anyone else, does anyone know how that compares to Bansko?

Other non-USA inexpensive ski places?

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@essence | 4yr

Havent been to Sarajevo myself to compare, sorry. You can check ski passes prices here and a map here and housing on airbnb or booking come or ask the guys at http://www.coworkingbansko.com/ as they would be moe up to date with accomodation pricing.

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@vruizext | 5yr

Hi Andrew, some friends and I are traveling to Les Deux Alpes in France, in 2 weeks. IMO itโ€™s one of the best on budget ski locations in Europe and you can always find fresh snow in the glacier. Weโ€™re paying about 1000โ‚ฌ per week for a 6 bed apartment with Internet connection. The ski pass is about 200โ‚ฌ for 6 days, 550โ‚ฌ for 20 days.

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@sunnytraveler | 5yr

We are trying the Summit County in Colorado this year. By staying anywhere in Breckenridge, Frisco, Dillon or Silverthorne weโ€™ll be close to 5 great ski resorts: Breckenridge, Vail, Beaver Creek, Keystone, and A-Basin which are all part of Epic Local season pass (costs about $600). This season pass also includes Park City, Utah and Heavenly, California but we probably wonโ€™t be going there. This area is very popular and connected so WiFi is not an issue but it is pricey on the housing side. 1 bedroom apartment will be at least $1500 but many people find roommates so that can bring it down to $1000 for shared housing. Forget airbnb here, because it is so popular they donโ€™t discount for monthly stays. Craigslist is the best way (https://rockies.craigslist.org/search/apa). Also there is a group on Facebook to check out called โ€œHigh Rockies Housingโ€ and vrbo.com is going to be a little more money but is an option.

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@blakebo | 5yr

South Lake Tahoe, California, is the most affordable ski town Iโ€™ve ever found. (I lived there two winters and two summers.) Ballpark is $500/mo for a private room and $1000/mo for a decent 1BR. Thereโ€™s a fantastic little coworking space that opened just over a year ago (http://www.tahoemountainlab.com) and theyโ€™re already expanding to a bigger location due to popularity. Only 3 hours from San Francisco and 1 hour from Reno/Tahoe airport. Heavenly Ski Resort and most other California resorts havenโ€™t had great snow the past few winters, but that could change anytime.

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@northcoffee | 5yr

Last winter I went to ร–stersund in Mid/North Sweden for cross-country skiing. Picked the place because there wide range of trails and a coworking space in town. Rented a hut on AirBnB.

I worked regular hours and went skiing in the afternoon/evening. The trails/tracks are lit so no problem with darkness.

The hut was โ‚ฌ800 for a month, the coworking space โ‚ฌ200 and food came from the regular supermarket. It was quite an affordable stay.

For people more into downhill, I would look into ร…re/Sweden where thereโ€™s also a coworking space.

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@thisisyouth | 5yr

I did this last year in Vail, Colorado.

Vail is an exceptionally poor choice in terms of cheap living. I did, however, write a blog post which discusses some of the general aspects of a ski town as a digital nomad. As it turns out, new users canโ€™t include links, but if you are interested in a detailed rundown, itโ€™s currently the top post on my blog at thisisyouth (dot) org.

Some general notes:

Overall, ski towns are EXPENSIVE. Short-term accommodation is at a premium and the cost of living is higher than normal. Not a great bet for a cash-strapped nomad, although one who generates a more than few thousand in revenue a month would get by better. Turnover is high and a ton of seasonal employees come in and out of these places, so finding a room usually isnโ€™t too hard, IF youโ€™re willing to pay.

Lift tickets are also usually very expensive if you donโ€™t buy a season pass, and season pass sales are usually halted sometime in November or December. So, not great for the spontaneous movement style of many nomads.

The skiing is great, and if you have a flexible schedule you have no reason to ever miss a powder day. However, you wonโ€™t find any entrepreneurial peers in the ski town, as almost everybody else is young, working in the service industry, and mostly there to ski and party.

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@kantong | 5yr

Whistler, Canada is pretty good. Constantly voted the best resort in North America. Itโ€™s about two hours from Vancouver, a pretty decent sized tech hub. Great pow, slopes and wifi. They even have a co-working office in the village. Whistler is a bit on the expensive side though. Alternatively if price is a big concern, Vancouver has three local mountains Cypress, Grouse and Seymour. They arenโ€™t as good as Whistler, but it makes a nice middle ground.

You can find accommodation for either on craigslist, airbnb or padmapper.com

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What are some nice French beach towns?


in France by @amin | 2mo 1 month ago | 4 comments

I'm thinking to head over to France during the winter and I'm looking for recommendations on a good French town that has beach and is warm enough during the winter.

What are your favourites? Any recommendation is appreciated.

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What is the best online insurance for digital nomads ?


by @berberos | 2mo 1 month ago | 4 comments

Hi guys ! hope you are doing well.

I would love to get your feedback regarding the best insurance for digital nomads. i'm traveling around Asia since 1 year and for next 4 or 5 years. Would love to buy an insurance to cover especially :

- health

- laptop, phone ...

- Flights

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Any Ph.D students dissertating while a digital nomad?


by @larsheather | 6mo 6 months ago | 5 comments

Anyone know of any groups or resources for Ph.D. students working on dissertation while living as a digital nomad? I know there are several virtual writing groups around, but wondered if there were any specifically for digital nomads, particularly those who are dissertating.

Thanks!

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Does international health insurance for digital nomads exist?

 

by @al_steffen | 6mo 6 months ago | 59 comments

Hey Nomads!

Iโ€™m looking for an international health insurance (no travel insurance) for my nomadic life. It should cover the basic services and at least be accepted in the EU (itโ€™s ok if itโ€™s not accepted in the US as Iโ€™m aware they rarely are). Nice to have: enter into a contract online. Anyone got a good experience or a recommendation?

Thanks in advance!

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I dream of being a digital nomad? How do I do it?


by @programmingmark | 7mo 7 months ago | 2 comments

Hello digital nomad!

I dream of being an independent digital nomad. But it feels very elusive & unattainable with my success rate. In full disclosure, whilst I have dreamed about making money online since high school; I have not earned a single cent making money online. $0, nada, zilch!! On the contrary, I have spent a lot of time & money on books, podcasts. Even though I have spent a lot of time reading/listening to others, I do not have anything to show for it!

I have made attempts in the past to start an online business, but these fizzle out quite quickly when I do not see traction especially when the goal I have set myself is too high.

Instead of reaching for the ultimate nomadic lifestyle goal, I want to start much smaller. Really small! I am simply looking to make $50 profit per month from a new online business. Thatโ€™s it.

I need some advice from you please!

  • Is $50 profit too low? How long did it take you to earn $50 profit per month?

  • What is a good way of achieving this goal?

Thanks
Mark
aka the $0 online business entrepreneur

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How do digital nomads pay tax?


by @rodriigovieira | 8mo 8 months ago | 19 comments

Hello everyone! Iโ€™m new here and probably this is a very newbie question, but it doesnโ€™t leave my head.

How do you, nomads, pay your taxes? I mean, if youโ€™re constantly traveling, how are you going to pay taxes for a certain country if you are going to stay there a short period of time?
Or do you return to your โ€œoriginal countryโ€ and then pay them?

By the way, this forum has very nice cool formatting features! :smile:

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Best place for Digital Nomad in Latin America?


by @rose_davis | 10mo 10 months ago | 7 comments

Hi!

I am planning to move to Latin America for 3-4 months (Oct-January). Iโ€™ve narrowed down 6 different places that I want to visit before committing to settling down, but Iโ€™d love to get some community input.

Here are the cities Iโ€™m considering:

  • Quito, Ecuador
  • Cuenca, Ecuador
  • Medellin, Columbia
  • Cartagena, Columbia
  • Antigua, Guatemala
  • San Marcos La Laguna, Guatemala

The most important things Iโ€™m looking for:

  • Fast/easily accessible internet
  • Easy to meet other nomads/make friends in general
  • Safe for women
  • Some sort of spiritual community (Iโ€™m also a yoga teacher)
  • Easily walkable city

Anyone have any experience with these places and can give some insight? Iโ€™m also completely open to other recommendations.

Thanks!
Rose

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How's the internet in Oaxaca towns?


in Oaxaca, Mexico by @azurio | 10mo 10 months ago | 0 comments

Hi guys!

If youโ€™ve been to Puerto Escondido, Mazunte, Zipolite, etc, please share your experience with the internet there.

  • What speeds did you get up/down? Where?

  • How solid and consistent was the connection?

  • How common are blackouts and loss of power?

  • Any other tips, favorite places to work, etc?

Which towns have decent internet?

  • Puerto Escondido
  • Mazunte
  • Zipolite

0voters

Thanks so much!

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How do we solve housing for digital nomads?

 

by @rad4ever | 10mo 10 months ago | 61 comments

Thereโ€™s been a lot of discussion on this recently.

Nomads usually stay in hostels, hotels and short-term apartments. But itโ€™s all not very optimal.

Iโ€™ve heard people suggest getting funding and building a network of houses you can stay at for a subscription price (e.g. Bruno Haid is working on that).

I donโ€™t want do physical stuff, so Iโ€™m thinking of building a platform around making housing better for nomads.

What are the housing problems nomads face? And how can we solve them with products/services?

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How is Sicily for digital nomads?


by @gaelm | 1yr 1 year ago | 15 comments

Hi all, I was looking for a cool spot in Southern Europe for winter and Iโ€™m considering Sicilyโ€ฆ Have you ever been there? If yes, how was your experience? If not, why?
thanks!

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How is Bari, Italy for digital nomads?


in Bari, Italy by @mitch_dina | 1yr 1 year ago | 7 comments

Greetings!
Does anyone have experience in Bari, Italy please? We are thinking of going from Dubrovnik, Croatia to Bari by boat in mid-March. Has anyone taken a boat across? Is it nice or can it be choppy? (We are trying to avoid planes, to reduce our carbon footprint, so adding more surface travel.) Also, any info you might be able to offer about Bari and the surrounds? Next step will likely be trains up Italy as the Spring progresses.

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How is Mauritius for digital nomads?


in Mauritius by @wakkos | 1yr 1 year ago | 14 comments

Hello all,

Iโ€™m planning on spending a couple of month in Mauritius Island and even when Iโ€™ve been there for a week, never rented or worked there.

Does anyone here has tips or experience to share about Mauritius?

Cheers!

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Are there any digital nomad fitness retreats?


by @ryanjames | 1yr 1 year ago | 1 comment

Hey all:

Does anyone here have any experience attending a full time fitness bootcamp or a fitness resort while working? I know there is one in Cambodia for digital nomads (Fitness Retreat Resort Kep Gym), unfortunately the time difference vs my work schedule would make my life suck if I tried to go there. Iโ€™m looking for a place between US and Europe timezones that lets you live with them, kicks your butt with fitness, but would also have good WiFi/accommodate working eight hours a day. Iโ€™m also open to other tangential ideas for something close-ish to get that same experience.

Thanks for any help!

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Best place to set up a company selling digital services?


by @pras_k | 1yr 1 year ago | 10 comments

Whatโ€™s the best place?
For residency Iโ€™m looking at Portugal and they have the NHR (non habitual resident) program which would exempt dividends from foreign income.
So all Iโ€™m really looking for is the best place to actually start the company.
Biggest factors are of course low taxes and ease of setting up the company plus a business bank account that enables me to receive payments through Stripe.

What I found so far:
Hong Kong
Corporate tax rate of 16.5% (8.25% for the first HK$2 million)
โŠ•/โŠ– offshore income from outside HK is exempt from taxation but itโ€™s not clear whether this can be done in the first year and prorated or if itโ€™s only through filing the offshore exemption claim. This might take two years and requires not income from HK at all. More info on that would be great
โŠ– seems very difficult to get a business bank account
โŠ– necessary services and fees are roughly around โ‚ฌ2000 / year
โŠ– accounting requirements seem to be very strict
โŠ• Doesnโ€™t require local partner
โŠ• Agencies available that seem to handle most of the work

Singapore
Corporate tax rate of 17% (0% on the first S$100k, 8.5% up to S$300k)
โŠ– requires a local director. What are the implications of this?

Malta
Corporate tax rate of 35%
There is the โ€œfull imputation systemโ€ but I donโ€™t really understand it.
"In most cases, the tax refund to the shareholder is 6/7 of the tax paid by the company on profits distributed as dividends. The tax refund rate may be different in the following cases: " This would result in an effective corporate tax of around 5%.
โŠ– European customers would have to pay VAT and Iโ€™d have to deal with that

Cyprus
Corporate tax rate of 12.5% and there seem to be ways to lower this
โŠ– European customers would have to pay VAT and Iโ€™d have to deal with that
โŠ– requires staying in Cyprus for 2 months / year

I find it surprising how much research this requires and how much โ€œit dependsโ€ information is out there when Iโ€™d assume that there are probably thousands of digital nomads who probably have very similar requirements.

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Do you "out" yourself as a digital nomad?


by @larsheather | 1yr 1 year ago | 2 comments

When you meet new people or reconnect with old friends, do you โ€œoutโ€ yourself as a digital nomad? The simple question โ€œwhere do you live?โ€ makes us uncertain now. We wonder if some places may be less welcoming to digital nomads, or if โ€œdigital nomadโ€ has a negative connotation in some places. If you are forthcoming from the start, does your status as a digital nomad make it hard to form friendships?

We would love to hear how other people navigate thisโ€ฆ how to balance being authentic in relationships vs. withholding the context (and allowing people to assume youโ€™re on vacation, for example).

Thanks!

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Property Ownership - should digital nomads buy properties?


by @sparrow_23 | 1yr 1 year ago | 16 comments

I have been a digital nomad for the last couple of years. I have always worked in tech and now run a couple of profitable online businesses that give me a reliable income and allow me to fund a nomadic lifestyle.

I recently exited one of my businesses and I am considering to invest the income from the sale in properties, mainly for 2 reasons:

a) I donโ€™t want to keep wasting my money in renting apartments across the cities I stay

b) I believe in properties as investment and I want to diversify my investment portfolio (mainly stocks)

After years of constant wander from one place to another, now I am the type of digital nomad who sticks to few locations: I mainly rotate across 4 places each year (San Francisco, Medellin, Berlin, Bali). Buying a house in each of those location would be difficult and too expensive. Therefore, I was wondering if there was any sort of service that combines an investment opportunity with the ability to access different properties around the world (even if just for a limited time per year) ?

Imagine living in 4 cities per year and having a house in each place that you can exclusively use for 3 months and at the same time having your investment growing (this depending on the market, of course). Wouldnโ€™t that be great? I believe it could be done via a property fund selling you a share and giving you access to some of their properties for a limited timeframe each year.

Has anyone heard of anything like that?

Thanks!

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Apple TV and Netflix: Do these work for Nomads?


by @lricci | 1yr 1 year ago | 8 comments

We launch in 2 weeks. In the US, we use Apple TV and Netflix regularly. Do these work abroad?

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Ko Lanta or Ko Phangan - which island is better for a digital nomad?


in Ko Lanta, Thailand by @melinda | 1yr 1 year ago | 6 comments

Iโ€™m currently in Penang, Malaysia and I was thinking to head to Thailand next. What are the best islands in Thailand to get some work done? I was considering either Ko Lanta or Ko Phangan because those both islands have coworking spaces. I might need to take some client calls, also video. Is the wifi good enough? Are there any other differences between the islands?

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Best beach towns in Southern Italy?


in Italy by @mitch_dina | 1yr 1 year ago | 1 comment

Looking to spend a month or so (March/April of โ€˜19) in a beach town(s) in Southern Italy, anybody have good experience down there?

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Do any digital nomads travely solely by motorcycle?


by @fraserdeans | 2yr 1 year ago | 10 comments

Last summer I spent some time travelling through Thailand and Cambodia and jumped on mopeds to get around. I fell in love with them, the freedom, the ability to get off the tourist trail and see areas of a country not written about in tour books.

Recently a friend of mine cycled from London through Western Europe down to Morocco. His journey, stories and photo blog have all inspired me to see Europe by road rather than missing it all by plane.

Iโ€™ve been encouraged to do the same longer term through Europe. Next month Iโ€™m heading off to Spain to start that journey.

I was wondering if any nomads here are on similar journeys? Does anyone motorcycle between cities setting up to work for a couple weeks then moving on?

If so, have you got any advice/tips for someone just starting that journey?

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