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Anyone know good foreign currencies to hold?

 

by @worldtravel | 6yr  | 22 comments

Iโ€™ve done a lot of research on foreign currencies and which are good to holdโ€ฆ its pretty complicated. it seems obvious, swiss franc, hong kong dollarโ€ฆ but when you look at if you want to open a swiss bank account they require a very high minimum balance, can charge you just to hold swiss francs, etcโ€ฆ anyone have a deep understanding of this stuff?

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@whirledover | 3yr

Cool, will be setting up a Transferwise account. Thanks :slight_smile:

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@vero_cuba | 3yr

I also use Transferwise for international bank transfer and to hold different currencies. Now they have also Bordeless accounts in many currencies. So far I found them easy to use and also fast transfers.(ie From UK - GBP to EUR account is Slovakia it was in same day)

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@whirledover | 3yr

Even without getting into whether the USD will fall or not, I think it makes sense to hold onto currencies, especially the ones that youโ€™ll be using often and especially when theyโ€™re on "sale."
In the hope of bringing an old thread to life again - how would you guys do this? For example, Iโ€™d like to buy currencies that I use/will be using somewhat frequently (CAD, EUR, GBP, ZAR, SGD, HKD, COP, etc) when theyโ€™re cheaper than usual and then store them somewhere, sort of like a multi-currency savings account.
Would opening up a multi-currency bank account be the best for this? Or a brokerage account like Interactive Brokers (the only downside I can see to using IB is that they have a minimum monthly fee)? Or is Transferwise the way to go?
Any insights?

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@workingnomad | 3yr

I use Transferwise and have accounts in many currencies.

I have saved a stack of money this way. I am from the UK so GBP is my currency and itโ€™s at historic lows compared to many others.

I hold EUR too and I am about to buy GBP back at a substantial profit. I bought EUR when 1 GBP = EUR 1.40.

I think currency trading is very risky, but itโ€™s doable long term and itโ€™s worthwhile for all Nomads to hold different currencies, partucularly USD,EUR,GBP and CHF.

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@worldtravel | 6yr

looked at the government budgetโ€ฆ it looks like the national debt will be 27 trillion by 2025 if Iโ€™m reading that rightโ€ฆ and iโ€™m not sure if I amโ€ฆ Iโ€™m a little scared case I have this money market fund which I thought was extremely low-risk. then I see what the fund is in and its 30% โ€œgovernment obligationsโ€ which has me nervous as hell and Iโ€™m moving everything out of it.

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@worldtravel | 6yr

wait a secโ€ฆ the AAA credit rating to the United States is an illusion isnโ€™t it? Even moodyโ€™s downgraded them, but changed it under threat of lawsuit by the US governmentโ€ฆ I donโ€™t get what the data is based on.

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@normaldude | 6yr

[quote=โ€œtravelguyny, post:17, topic:2671, full:trueโ€]wait a secโ€ฆ the AAA credit rating to the United States is an illusion isnโ€™t it?
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Sure. Thatโ€™s why I said โ€œworstโ€. Iโ€™m not even considering USAโ€™s AAA credit rating from Moodyโ€™s, since itโ€™s probably artificially high. I only mentioned USAโ€™s WORST credit rating (โ€œA-โ€, by Chinaโ€™s credit rating agency Dagong).

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@worldtravel | 6yr

I seeโ€ฆ very interestingโ€ฆ any tips on learning more about this stuff? Iโ€™m going to spend some time researching this default thingโ€” I just donโ€™t understand the fact that they are borrowing to pay their debts, then have interest to pay on those debtsโ€ฆ its seems mathematically impossibleโ€ฆ in 10 years Iโ€™m hearing it could get to 25 plus trillion in debt โ€ฆwhat do they do; just keep raising the debt ceiling forever? Iโ€™ll have to read all those links you posted and will respond back after I look at it.

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@worldtravel | 6yr

http://www.transferwise.com is pretty good for getting around the fees and conversion cost apparently.

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@anon72215238 | 6yr

Can you send money from a HK corporation (in corporationโ€™s name) to a personal bank account in Australia using Transferwise?

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@worldtravel | 6yr

supposedly someone who is pretty credible says that on a $50,000 transaction from USD to Hong Kong dollars that $100 was paid as a conversion charge. That is pretty lowโ€ฆ but who knows.

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@normaldude | 6yr

Depends on the company/bank.

  • If youโ€™re wiring HKD > USD from Hang Seng Bank (HK) to Bank of America (USA), you might get charged 0.2% premium over spot rate (as you implied). As I stated earlier, HK banks have some of the narrowest currency spreads.

  • If youโ€™re wiring USD > HKD from Bank of America (USA) to Hang Seng Bank (HK), you might get charged 4.0% premium over spot rate, or lose $2,000 on your $50,000 transaction. In this case, youโ€™d probably want to use a currency transfer company like Transferwise or USforex.

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@worldtravel | 6yr

apparently from some of the research I just did says basically that even though you may lose that .5-1 percentโ€ฆ it doesnโ€™t matter because the point is to get out of a potentially unstable currencyโ€ฆ that that loss is acceptableโ€ฆ and only means something in the immediate short-term. I for one believe that US has to default on its debt in the next 5 yearsโ€ฆ I donโ€™t see any way around it. You can bet there will be a massive decline in the value of the dollarโ€ฆ will this actually happen? who knowsโ€ฆ but if you look at the dataโ€ฆ how long can it go on like this for? Debt ceilings canโ€™t be raised forever, and it is statistically impossible to for the government to pay of the debt at this pointโ€ฆ printing money is what they love to doโ€ฆ

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@normaldude | 6yr

Iโ€™m sure zerohedge articles will make people think that.

Meanwhile, the US dollar has only strengthened over the last 10 yearsโ€ฆ

Credit default swap spreads imply USA has a mere 0.3% chance of annual defaultโ€ฆ

And even if you go by USAโ€™s WORST credit rating (โ€œA-โ€, by Chinaโ€™s credit rating agency Dagong), USA only has a 4-5% of default over the next 10 yearsโ€ฆ

The idea that โ€œUS has to default on its debt in the next 5 yearsโ€ is something I expect to hear from an episode of โ€œDoomsday Preppersโ€.

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@normaldude | 6yr
  1. Everytime you change currencies, you could be losing up to anywhere from 0.50% - 10% on the exchange rate premium over spot rate (depending on what company/bank you use).

  2. When it comes to currency speculation, itโ€™s unlikely that regular people are going to beat the institutional players (like hedge fund manager George Soros), since the institutional players have much better information, and they also have the scale to actually break markets (like how George Soros broke UKโ€™s currency peg in 1992).

If you really can predict the direction of currencies, then you should just become a billionaire hedge fund manager. But realistically, youโ€™re probably better off just holding your money in the currency that itโ€™s received in (income) or spent in (paying bills). The exception might be if youโ€™re living & working in a place like Venezuela or Argentina, where the government is printing the currency into oblivion.

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@worldtravel | 6yr

umm the United States is printing money into Oblivion! Holding dollars is going to get more dangerousโ€ฆ I know the value of the dollars has risenโ€ฆ but its propped up because people think it has value and is still the reserve currency of the worldโ€ฆ that will change soon. It makes sense to hold something like the Hong Kong Dollar, which is pegged to the USD, but they can unpeg it if something really bad happens to the dollar. There is risk in everythingโ€ฆ its all Fiat money, better to go after better fiat money or diversify I thinkโ€ฆ Argentinaโ€™s money is not even a place Iโ€™d consider.

my goal is not to use it as a way to make money like Georgeโ€ฆ my goal is to use it to preserve valueโ€ฆ and if one has a lot of cash I donโ€™t see the argument against doing it.

I canโ€™t imagine why you would lose .5%-10% ? especially if I was going to a bank in a country where Iโ€™m converting to their currency and they want my business for me to deposit my money thereโ€ฆ I donโ€™t know why that would be set in stoneโ€ฆ unless you are trading from the US or somethingโ€ฆ Iโ€™ll have to research that.

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@normaldude | 6yr

You can also consider a 10% porftolio allocation to physical gold, if youโ€™re worried about fiat currency hyperinflation. But thatโ€™s a bit complex, as it introduces issues with theft, violence, counterfeit coins, differences between gold bullion coins, testing methods, storage, containers, transportation if needed, etc. Before you get involved with physical gold, youโ€™d want to spend a lot of time studying all the logistics & practical issues, and take detailed notes.

In general, when changing currencies, the exchange rate youโ€™ll get charged will be a premium over spot rateโ€ฆ

So when changing currencies, you have to be careful that youโ€™re not getting destroyed on the currency exchange rate, when compared to the spot rate.

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@worldtravel | 6yr

Good to knowโ€ฆ is there a way around it? or any way I change currencies Iโ€™m going to lose that amount?

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@replay | 6yr

I donโ€™t think itโ€™s currently a good idea to buy Swiss francs. In January a decision has been made by the Swiss national bank which made the Swiss franc jump up by 20%, it already has started to normalize a little again, but the value is currently still very high.

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@worldtravel | 6yr

Thanks for the infoโ€ฆ trueโ€ฆ If I bought it too high and it normalizes or goes down that would be a huge lossโ€ฆ I just want to diversify my currency. I feel the USD is pound to go down substantially in the next 5-7 yearsโ€ฆ how is it possible that all these dollars are being printed and you arenโ€™t seeing higher monetary inflationโ€ฆ and eroding of purchasing power. What do you think about the Hong Kong dollar? Singapore dollar or something else?

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@anon72215238 | 6yr

Itโ€™s pegged to the USD, so will go down also unless they remove the peg.

Could be a good choice, but remember the Asian financial crisis of the late 90โ€™s? The east isnโ€™t immune to currency crashes either.

Personally I keep my money in my home currency and just withdrawal the local currency in whichever country I am in. Only what I need.

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@yako | 6yr

Open a broker account and buy from there.

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