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I'll be entering the UK for 6 months, will immigration ask to see my finances?

 

by @shayna | 5yr  | 24 comments

Hi!

I (American) and my husband (Brazilian) are going to London for 6 months.

Heโ€™s going to study English - heโ€™s already registered & paid for the course.

Iโ€™m going to be a touristโ€ฆ and work on my online business.

Iโ€™ve heard UK border control can be a bit difficult and am wondering if they are likely to ask for financial evidence that we can support ourselves for six months.

I have savings in the bank, but of course Iโ€™ll also be receiving regular, stable income from the online business (I could show them a history of payments stretching back a year or more, if necessary).

Any thoughts/tips?

Thanks in advance!

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@eri | 4yr

I have been in the UK for a week now.

The immigration/border officer asked a couple of questions which are pretty standard:

  • How long are you staying
  • Where are you going next
  • How are you supporting yourself (I mentioned him that I work remotely)
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@archagon | 5yr

Iโ€™m an American who has entered the UK visa-free two (and a half) times over the past year. The border checks were more thorough and serious than Iโ€™ve experienced elsewhere in Europe, and they did ask me once about how I was planning to support myself, but nobody asked to see my actual finances. Nobody asked to see an onward ticket, either โ€” just an estimate of how long I was planning to stay. (I think I said something on the order of โ€œa few monthsโ€.)

Caveat: I was arriving by Chunnel bus from mainland Europe. YMMV if you come by plane.

It might be a good idea to have a printout of a bank statement just in case!

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@gigigriffis | 5yr

Ahh, just realized this was an old threadโ€ฆbut will add my two-cents for future browsers:

Iโ€™m an American and they not only questioned me, but detained me for three and a half hours and then ultimately didnโ€™t let me in. And I know another nomadic American that had the same issue.

I agree with everyone above, definitely donโ€™t mention working (and keep in mind that any sort of volunteering, housesitting, pet-sitting, etc. is considered work).

In my case, after being detained, they did ask for proof of funds (which I did not have on me). So this is an excellent question. I normally wouldnโ€™t advise people to travel with bank statements, but going into the UK it might be a good idea to have a statement on you.

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@don_lee | 5yr

Hi everyone, Iโ€™ve luckily never been asked to prove my personal finance when trying to get a visa but Iโ€™m just worrying that it may happen sometime in the future, so what should I prepare for it? Can I just print out the page in my online banking site or have to have a bank statement provided from the bank with some officerโ€™s signature? Hope someone can advise. Thanks!

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@shayna | 5yr

I had the printed page from my online banking site (printed out as close to the date of travel as possible) but the officer didnโ€™t ask to see it. He only asked the amount, and was satisfied with my verbal answer. Might depend on the country and on the officer, though; some may be stricter than others.

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@shayna | 5yr

Update: My husband and I got in successfully. The immigration officer asked:

  • Purpose of trip (me = tourism; husband = studying)
  • Length of trip (just under 6 months)
  • Whether we had an outbound ticket - we did - and he asked to see it
  • What exactly I would be doing while my husband was studying for 6 months - I said sightseeing. He seemed a bit skeptical and then askedโ€ฆ
  • How we planned to support ourselves - I said โ€œsavingsโ€ - he asked how much - I told him the amount, and he was satisfied and did not ask to see my bank statement, even though I had it printed out and ready

Hope this info helps anyone else considering staying a few months in the UK!

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This is usually the type of questions you get asked at the border by UK immigration officers. I just saw this post and its good you did not mention work. But for the purposes of the type of visit visa you can be working on your online business. The rules really are about not working in the UK and getting paid for it. Its an old concept and like @wanderingdev said it will confuse them so better keep it simple.

It will be ok to show them that you have the funds being earned online but keep in mind the immigration rules. If you meet them, they they should let you through.

US visitors do not need a visa to visit for a short period but for certain other nationalities, you will. Check out our tips for UK visit visas

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@leonagano | 5yr

Great news Shayna. Iโ€™m brazilian too, but my wife is Spanish. I got a visa family to enter in UK.
By the way, where are you working during your stay here in London?

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@leonagano | 5yr

I had been in Google Campus (https://www.campuslondon.com/) twice. Itโ€™s a great place to work. The only thing you need to do is signup through the website and head to the campus. Once inside, you need to take a chair and start to work. They have a super high speed internet and a coffee inside. Itโ€™s a quiet enviroment despite of being a coworking space). I went there 2 times and in both, I can grab a chair as soon as I arrived.

Where are you living? I had gone to The Timberyard too, itโ€™s near the Google Campus. I think it looks like the Fleet River as you described. When you enter doesnโ€™t look big but thereโ€™s a downstairs room too.

Check it out this link too: http://www.locappy.com/blog/blog/best-cafes-and-places-to-work-from-in-london

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@shayna | 5yr

Working mostly from home, actually! Would love to hear suggestions about good places to work if you know of any.

For the first few days, before I had my home internet set up, I went to the Fleet River Bakery - doesnโ€™t look big when you initially enter, but thereโ€™s a large back room and downstairs room, and they have power outlets. Important to arrive outside of the breakfast/lunch rush, though.

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@kroger | 5yr

Iโ€™d also look for public libraries. I used to work in the Keats Library (right next to the Keats House; very inspirational place to write a book ;-). The British Library cafe is a cool place, but gets full quickly. Google campus is another option (they have a free cafe and a paid co-working space). I worked a lot in Starbucks and Costa, since there are so many around :wink:

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@wanderingdev | 5yr

Iโ€™m an American and they questioned me for @ 45 minutes so donโ€™t count on the โ€˜Americans are usually waived throughโ€™ thing.

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@shayna | 5yr

@wanderingdev @Yemoonyah - Thanks - Iโ€™ll definitely not mention working online! This is exactly the type of info I needed to know.

Weโ€™ll have genuine onward tickets to leave the UK a couple weeks before our 6 months are up. And through some reshuffling of funds, I think Iโ€™ll be able to pump up my bank account enough to prove sufficient support for two non-working people for half a year.

An American might not normally get questioned, but an American + a Brazilian who plan on just studying/tourism for multiple months might be unusual.

Iโ€™ll update this thread after we travel.

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@yemoonyah | 5yr

I agree. Do not mention that you will be working!
Maybe print out a bank statement in advance in case they want proof. And the tip to book a cheap flight is great! EasyJet.com has super cheap flights in Europe.

Also, I have no idea how this works in the UK but the last time I flew to the US they wouldnโ€™t even let me board the plane in Amsterdam because I ONLY had an onward flight to Colombia and none back to the EU. They made me buy one then and there.

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@wanderingdev | 5yr

^^ That too. Or check out one of the cheap RyanAir deals and just do that. Youโ€™ll lose a few bucks but not have to waste time dealing with getting a refund.

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An alternative to Skyscanner from UK is Money Saving Expertโ€™s Flight Scanner.
You can search from a popular hub (LHR, MAN, BHX) and choose โ€œIโ€™ll go anywhereโ€. There are some seriously cheap flights out there. You could even schedule a cheapie over a weekend and actually go for a mini break!

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The other option is you get a refundable ticket for, say, a month after you land and lie about how long youโ€™re planning on staying. (I assume you have enough savings in the bank to prove you can both survive for a month). As long as you donโ€™t overstay your 6 month visa, itโ€™s not like they will do anything about it if you โ€œdecideโ€ not to leave after the initial month.

IANAL: but as long as youโ€™re not overstaying the visa, I wouldnโ€™t worry about fabricating a better story too muchโ€ฆ

Iโ€™m British so Iโ€™ve never had this issue but considering how many illegal immigrants we actually have in England, I have no idea why theyโ€™d give an American a hard time.

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@wanderingdev | 5yr

Absolutely DO NOT mention to them that you are earning a single penny while in the UK or they will not let you in unless you have a work visa. Make sure you have proof of onward travel and have a number in your head of how much it will cost you to live and tell them thatโ€™s what you have in the bank.

The UK does not do well, in my experience, with non-traditional travelers. Have a list of places you are going to visit while youโ€™re there (even if youโ€™re not) and at least one person you can use as a local contact.

Last time I flew into the UK they almost didnโ€™t let me in and I got a REALLY long lecture about how it was illegal and I could be arrested and deported if I did any sort of work online while I was there.

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@mikevallano | 5yr

Great advice and I think that applies to any countryโ€“even between Canada and the US. โ€œIโ€™m a non-working tourist with sufficient funds abiding by all of your rules, and I have my onward ticketโ€ is a good attitude to have.

You never want border agents thinking youโ€™re coming to their country to work.

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@kathrynoh | 5yr

I donโ€™t have any answers but was just wondering if it was wise to mention to them that you are working on an online business if you are on a tourist visa.

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@shayna | 5yr

Thatโ€™s a great point, @kathrynohโ€ฆ Iโ€™ve been debating how to present that. Perhapsโ€ฆ I earn passive income from a business I own in the U.S.?

I could omit it altogether and simply say Iโ€™m there for tourism. But then if they asked to see 6 monthsโ€™-worth of savings to support two people, Iโ€™d have to say โ€œActually, Iโ€™m receiving regular payments from my U.S.-based business.โ€

Hmmโ€ฆ still considering how best to go about it!

Normally I wouldnโ€™t be so paranoid about this stuff, but now that I have a non-traditional employment situation and a spouse from a developing country, I canโ€™t help but think about it.

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@tonycarreon | 5yr

my apologies. i was thinking of Schengen areas (of which the UK is not a part)

as long as your outbound ticket is no more than 180 days from your arrival, i wouldnโ€™t expect much difficulty.

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@tonycarreon | 5yr

how are you getting around the 3-month limit on the visa? (sorry i have not done much research on what the rules are for spouses of studentsโ€ฆ)

i know in general unless you are enrolled in a learning program, or have a work visa, youโ€™re limited to a 3-month stay. for that they do not ask for you to prove finances.

when i went to london, the border patrol did not ask for any proof of finances, but they did ask more questions than when i went to amsterdam - they wanted phone numbers / addresses of where i was staying. they wanted to see my return ticket, etc. not too onerous but more than the quick glance and stamp i got at AMS.

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@shayna | 5yr

Hmm, according to VisaHQ itโ€™s 180 days (for both Brazilians and Americans, whether tourists or students).

Also says 6 mo. here: https://www.gov.uk/general-visit-visa/overview

Weโ€™ll be staying in an AirBNB for the first week until we find a placeโ€ฆ hopefully theyโ€™ll accept that. And weโ€™ll have an outbound ticket - though it will be onward to another country, not back to our home country.

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Moving to Thailand for 6-9 months in August. Bangkok or somewhere else?


in Bangkok, Thailand by @andrea3018 | 3yr 2 years ago | 14 comments

Hello Nomads,
I would like to move in Thailand for 6-9 months starting from August.
Iโ€™ll definetely stay in Chiang Mai as base for most of the time but Iโ€™d like to do the first month (August) in Bangkok or somewhere else.
What place would you recommend to visit first?
Would Bangkok be a good place to be during August?
I was also checking at the east coast isles but I got a little frightened out by the moonsoon idea but still, it would be cool to go to beaches and have some sun during that month :slight_smile: .
Would the moonsoons or the rain really be a problem?
Iโ€™ll move to Chiang Mai from september anyway but I would just like to start somewhere else since I have to wait for my girlfriend to come during september.

Thank you in advance for your advices,
Sorry for the bad english,
Andrea

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Extending Thai visa immediately after entering possible?


by @gonchs | 3yr 2 years ago | 3 comments

I tried googling this for hours without success.

If I enter Thailand on single entry 60-day visa, can I extend it for +30 days (for a total of 90 days) IMMEDIATELY the next day after the entry?

E.g. entering on Aug 1 and extending it on Aug 2. Have anyone done this?

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Is anyone using Charles Schwab vs N26 banks?


by @mary_oleksiuk | 3yr 2 years ago | 11 comments

Hi nomads! Iโ€™m trying to figure out all props and cons of using Charles Schwab vs N26 banks. Is anyone using those banks? If yea - what you like/dont like about it. And if income is mostly in US which one is better to open?

Thanks

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Ideal 6 weeks south of the US border


by @rynesweeney | 3yr 3 years ago | 2 comments

So I have a cruise on May 11 leaving from Cartagena Columbia. I am leaving the country the end of March and I am looking to hit 3-4 cities before setting off. This it probably my last extended stay in South America.

Current game plan:

  • 2 weeks in Mexico City
  • 1 week in Havana
  • 1 week in Playa Del Carmen
  • Short term in Bogota
  • 1 week in Medellin
  • Short term in Cartagena

Am I making a mistake omitting Costa Rica, Panama, Nicaragua, Guatemala, Peru, Equador etc?

I work usually around 10 hours a week. I would like to spend the rest of my time soaking up the local culture, enjoying the local nightlife, and practicing my improving mediocre spanglish.

Anyone have experience/insight on areas I may enjoy more?

Thanks in advance!

Ryne

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Looking a for a flat to rent in Barcelona from January for 6 months. Anyone?


in Barcelona, Spain by @aleravanetti | 3yr 3 years ago | 2 comments

Hi guys, as I wrote in the title I am planning to move to Barcelona with my girlfriend starting from January 2017 and I am looking to rent a flat for 6 months, possibly in the Born area, but open also to other neighborhoods. My budget is around โ‚ฌ800 per month. Is anyone looking to rent out something that could fit my request? Any help would be appreciated!

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Can you get an NIE number while working in Spain for a UK company?


in Spain by @sabolmm | 4yr 3 years ago | 1 comment

Has anyone stayed in Barcelona longer than 3 months as a nomad?

I realise UK citizens have to apply for a NIE number if they are staying longer than 3 months in Spain. But can you actually get an NIE number while working in Spain for a UK company?

My company is registered in the UK so I will be remote working from Spain, donโ€™t want to setup as a freelancer or sold trader in Spain as it will only be a temporary pit stop for 3-6 months.

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How do Ukrainians receive USD?


by @nealbozeman | 4yr 3 years ago | 7 comments

Iโ€™m finding it harder and harder to work with my friend from the Ukraine, to transfer money from the US, in USD to USD (he has an account that allows dollars).

  • I used to work with Western Union, which was a hefty fee around $60. They closed the account years ago on concerns I was operating a business (I am)
  • I opened an HSBC account to be able to wire internationally, with a $45 per wire fee, but they have stopped allowing transfers
  • Ria Money Transfer was great, but they stopped this week doing deposits in to UA

Arrgh! If a Ukrainian is on a freelancing site like UpWork, how do they get money from their accounts, especially US clients? It must be incredibly expensive by now?

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3 Months in Australia as UK Ltd Company


in Australia by @keiththetraveller | 4yr 3 years ago | 3 comments

Hi Guys,

A quick question as my accountant as queried something with me.

I have a UK limited company and Iโ€™m visiting Australia for 3 months to visit friends, plus enjoy a little sunshine. I was looking at hiring a desk for a month or so while there and was wondering if this would affect my visa and wether Iโ€™d need to declare my earnings while there?

As Iโ€™ll still be working for my own UK company with no money coming from Australian sources and I wonโ€™t be selling goods or services to Australian companies I would have thought that the normal holiday visa would be fine. Iโ€™d also assume I wouldnโ€™t have to declare anything with the Australian tax authorities as it would be similar to a UK citizen being paid theyโ€™re holiday pay while in the country.

If anyone has any experience with this then it would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Keith

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