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| ⭐️ Total score | 75 reviews |
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| 👮♀️ Lack of crime* | |
| 🤝 Lack of racism* | |
| 🎓 Education level* | |
| 💰 Income level* | |
| 🙊 English speaking* | |
| 🚶 Walkability | |
| ✌️ Peace (no pol. conflict) | |
| 🚦 Traffic safety* | |
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| 😄 Happiness* | |
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| 📶 Free WiFi in city | |
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| ❄️ A/C or heating | |
| 😁 Friendly to foreigners | |
| 🗯 Freedom of speech* | |
| 👩 Female friendly | |
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| 🌍 Continent | Asia |
| 🚩 Country | Indonesia |
| ⏱ Average trip length | 5 days |
| 📡 Internet speed (avg) | 7 Mbps |
| ⛅️ Weather (now) | 🌥 30°C 86°F + 🥵 Sweaty (84%) = feels 38°C 100°F |
| 💨 Air quality (now) | 👍 60 US AQI 🍃 OK |
| 🔌 Power | 230V50Hz |
| 🚕 Best taxi app* | |
| 🚑 Travel medical insurance |  Safetywing |
| 💸 100,000 IDR in USD | USD 6.59 |
| 🏧 Suggested ATM take out: | IDR 1,000,000 = USD 66 |
| 💸 Tipping | Yes, 7.50% |
| 💳 Cashless | 💵 No, cash only (esp. for foreigners) |
| ☕️ Best coffee place | Caffe Bene |
| 🚰 Tap water | 🚫 No, not drinkable |
| ♻️ Return rate | 6% of visitors return |
| 👨👩👧👦 Population | 390,000 people |
| 👨👩👧👦 GDP per capita* | $3,570 / year |
| 👫 Gender ratio (population) | 👨 47% 👱♀️ 53% |
| 👫 Gender ratio (young adults) | 👨 52% 👱♀️ 48% |
| 👫 Gender ratio (nomads) | 👨 86% 👱♀️ 14% |
| ⛪️ Religious government | Religious |
| 💻 Online electronics shop | Tokopedia |
| 🏠 Apartment listings | AirBnb |
| ✈️ Best short-haul air carrier | Lion |
| ✈️ Best int'l air carrier | Garuda |
| 💵 Cost of living for nomad | $953 / month |
| 💵 Cost of living for expat | $839 / month |
| 💵 Cost of living for family | $1,853 / month |
| 💵 Cost of living for local | $530 / month |
| 🏨 Hotel (median price) | $367 / month |
| 🏠 1br studio rent in center | $416 / month |
| 🏨 Hotel (median price) | $17 / night |
| 🏢 Coworking hot desk | $154 / month |
| 🍛 Dinner | $2 |
| 🥤 Coca-Cola (0.3L) | $1 |
| 🍺 Beer (0.5L) | $2 |
| ☕️ Coffee | $1 |
✅ Very cheap to live
✅ Very safe
✅ Warm now
✅ Warm all year round
✅ Good air quality on average
✅ Spacious and not crowded
✅ Easy to make friends
✅ Easy to do business
✅ Democratic
❌ Freedom of speech is weak
❌ Pretty slow internet
❌ Not much to do
❌ Very sweaty and humid now
❌ Quality of education is low
❌ Roads can be dangerous
❌ People don't speak English well
❌ Not safe for women
❌ Not family friendly
❌ Hostile towards LGBTQ+
❌ Many people smoke tobacco
| Jan | Feb | Mar | Apr | May | Jun | Jul | Aug | Sep | Oct | Nov | Dec | |
| Feels | 9334° hot | 9937° hot | 10440° hot | 10239° hot | 10038° hot | 9736° hot | 9334° hot | 9334° hot | 10038° hot | 10038° hot | 9937° hot | 9736° hot |
| Real | 8228° very warm | 8429° very warm | 8630° very warm | 8630° very warm | 8630° very warm | 8429° very warm | 8429° very warm | 8429° very warm | 8630° very warm | 8630° very warm | 8429° very warm | 8429° very warm |
| Humidity | sweaty 91% | sweaty 93% | sweaty 89% | sweaty 86% | sweaty 83% | sweaty 88% | sweaty 79% | sweaty 80% | sweaty 82% | sweaty 83% | sweaty 92% | sweaty 89% |
| Rain | rainy 350mm | rainy 405mm | rainy 265mm | rainy 204mm | rainy 70mm | rainy 181mm | dry 33mm | dry 46mm | rainy 152mm | rainy 139mm | rainy 358mm | rainy 241mm |
| Cloud | overcast 97% | overcast 92% | cloudy 84% | cloudy 75% | cloudy 72% | cloudy 72% | cloudy 60% | cloudy 71% | cloudy 79% | cloudy 89% | overcast 96% | overcast 92% |
| Sun | avoid sun 6 UVI | avoid sun 8 UVI | avoid sun 8 UVI | avoid sun 8 UVI | avoid sun 7 UVI | avoid sun 6 UVI | avoid sun 7 UVI | avoid sun 8 UVI | avoid sun 7 UVI | avoid sun 7 UVI | avoid sun 6 UVI | avoid sun 8 UVI |
| Remote workers | 200 people | 250 people | 250 people | 233 people | 286 people | 250 people | 480 people | 240 people | 333 people | 200 people | 200 people | 280 people |
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⭐️ All 💵 Cost 📡 😀 Fun 👮 Safety 🌥 Feels 44° 111° 33° 91°🥵AQI 60🚕2h$964 / mo4MbpsI've been living in Semarang for about 6 months at this point. Living at the "Candiland Apartment" which is reasonably priced 2.5 million - 3.5 million rupiah per month. Great view of the city. It's hot here. Usually like 35+ degrees. The beach is all industrial. Usually a lot of traffic. In the southern part of the city there are some small hills which are cool but to go anywhere with nice air, cool temperatures and big mountains it's at least an hour south. Sometimes the locals will give you a
⭐️ All 💵 Cost 📡 😀 Fun 👮 Safety 🌥 Feels 42° 108° 32° 89°🥵AQI 63🚕3h$1,119 / mo8MbpsTo be honest, as an English man with no use of Indo Bahasa, I've got no chance (like the last chance saloon) in finding an English speaking human..unless it Hiya, Hello, How are you, language is totally useless unless you know sign and body expressions! And that Works! Point to the food in the picture on the wall, have small cash in you pocket (and bigger cash stored away out of sight) You buy food in the picture and only get half of what you saw! Yer, It happens like Shx.all the time where eve
⭐️ All 💵 Cost 📡 😀 Fun 👮 Safety 🌥 Feels 44° 111° 33° 91°🥵AQI 68✈️19min$905 / mo6Mbps⭐️ All 💵 Cost 📡 😀 Fun 👮 Safety 🌥 Feels 32° 90° 28° 83°🥵AQI 60✈️19min$1,107 / mo6MbpsThe city lacks footpaths in most areas. The air pollution is quite unbearable especially when you walk to go around or riding motorbikes. Petrol sold here only met the Euro 3-4 emission standard. Most vehicles on the road do not meet the minimum emission standard. The locals burn their rubbish which includes burning plastic. Everywhere is pretty much the rubbish bin for many locals. Infrastructures are not well maintained. Definitely not a picturesque city except for the trees planted in city ce
⭐️ All 💵 Cost 📡 😀 Fun 👮 Safety 🌥 Feels 44° 111° 33° 91°🥵AQI 63✈️21min$1,026 / mo7Mbps⭐️ All 💵 Cost 📡 😀 Fun 👮 Safety 🌥 Feels 33° 91° 28° 82°🥵AQI 68✈️26min$1,287 / mo8MbpsSkip this place and go to Bali right away. This city only looks beautiful in tourism videos but ugly in person. It is dusty and smelly.
⭐️ All 💵 Cost 📡 😀 Fun 👮 Safety 🌥 Feels 41° 106° 31° 89°🥵AQI 87😷✈️34min$1,574 / mo9MbpsSeseh is a small, beachy area north of Canggu. It's not really a community of its own, although that's changing as people move north from being priced out of the Canggu Airbnb market. Seseh is built mostly on "green land", or land zoned for nature use rather than commercial or residential use. For this reason, land is scarce and rentals are quite expensive, with some Airbnb properties exceeding $6000 USD/mo. There is an enclave of expensive Airbnbs next to Seseh Beach which has nice homes. Go
⭐️ All 💵 Cost 📡 😀 Fun 👮 Safety 🌥 Feels 35° 95° 29° 85°🥵AQI 55✈️42min$520 / mo15MbpsUluwatu is an amazing place, in my opinion way better than Canggu and even Ubud. Why? There’s not much traffic, beaches are amazing, there’s a significant Brazilian/Portuguese community around which reflects in ethnic restaurants pretty good and affordable. Surf culture is present, so the laid back lifestyle. Maybe it’s hard to find an actual “home”, I always prefer to stay in cheap guesthouses such as 3D Homestay, with a nice swimming pool. Enjoy the morning in the beach and catch the
⭐️ All 💵 Cost 📡 😀 Fun 👮 Safety 🌥 Feels 32° 90° 28° 82°🥵AQI 60✈️43min$2,020 / mo8MbpsOverpriced and overhyped. Back in 2017 when Canggu got the lead on a site like this, landprices went 10x. Then came the covid situation and now the Balinese like to earn their loses over the last 2 years back in 1 day, which was yesterday. Rape tourism was mentioned not once. In a review below the diversity of restaurants is mentioned and how good the food is, maybe this person was on a holiday for a few weeks and didn't have to cook and didn't eat for months, but the fact remains - Bali is an
⭐️ All 💵 Cost 📡 😀 Fun 👮 Safety 🌥 Feels 35° 95° 29° 85°🥵AQI 55✈️43min$1,907 / mo27MbpsI wanted to say I was surprised that no one has left a review about Seminyak yet... but maybe I shouldn't be surprised. Seminyak is a messy, watered-down Balinese town especially for the typical tourists. Seasoned travellers & nomads will find Seminyak overstimulating and overcommercialized. Imagine Seminyak as Bali's version of Cancun, Mexico. Having said that, the party scene is pretty fantastic... so if you're looking to put on your dancing shoes and paint the town red, Seminyak is the place
⭐️ All 💵 Cost 📡 😀 Fun 👮 Safety 🌥 Feels 35° 95° 29° 85°🥵AQI 55✈️43min$1,719 / moJust another crappy overpriced overrated Austronesian party island with smelly foreigners and uppity locals.
⭐️ All 💵 Cost 📡 😀 Fun 👮 Safety 🌥 Feels 38° 100° 30° 86°🥵AQI 60✈️43min$1,234 / mo5MbpsSkip this place and go to Bali right away. This city only looks beautiful in tourism videos but ugly in person. It is dusty and smelly.
⭐️ All 💵 Cost 📡 😀 Fun 👮 Safety 🌥 Feels 41° 106° 31° 89°🥵AQI 87😷✈️34min$1,574 / mo9MbpsHonestly, this is an awesome place to be if you're actually trying to get work done. It's a bit of an older vibe than Canggu, and there's certainly a big chunk of yogi's kicking around — but I liked it much better than Canggu and found it less pretentious. Plus, you can drive down there in 45mins whenever you want some beach or party vibes. As others mentioned, there's some great coworking spaces, cheap warungs, some really nice spots to stay cheaply if you go just outside of the mad tourist
⭐️ All 💵 Cost 📡 😀 Fun 👮 Safety 🌥 Feels 39° 102° 30° 85°🥵AQI 55✈️44min$1,961 / mo6MbpsOverpriced and overhyped. Back in 2017 when Canggu got the lead on a site like this, landprices went 10x. Then came the covid situation and now the Balinese like to earn their loses over the last 2 years back in 1 day, which was yesterday. Rape tourism was mentioned not once. In a review below the diversity of restaurants is mentioned and how good the food is, maybe this person was on a holiday for a few weeks and didn't have to cook and didn't eat for months, but the fact remains - Bali is an
⭐️ All 💵 Cost 📡 😀 Fun 👮 Safety 🌥 Feels 35° 95° 29° 85°🥵AQI 55✈️43min$1,907 / mo27MbpsFeels like living in the future because of how wealthy, clean, modern, efficient, and organized it is. Probably the most "developed" city I've visited. And amenities everywhere... you're never more than 10 minutes walk away from a shopping mall or park. Only downsides are the extreme heat and humidity and very small homes compared to American standards. Yes it's very expensive but if you live like a local it's mostly housing that's a big expense.
⭐️ All 💵 Cost 📡 😀 Fun 👮 Safety 🌧 Feels 36° 97° 29° 85°🥵AQI 42✈️2h$5,020 / mo102Mbps⭐️ All 💵 Cost 📡 😀 Fun 👮 Safety 🌥 Feels 33° 91° 28° 82°🥵AQI 68✈️26min$1,287 / mo8MbpsThe city lacks footpaths in most areas. The air pollution is quite unbearable especially when you walk to go around or riding motorbikes. Petrol sold here only met the Euro 3-4 emission standard. Most vehicles on the road do not meet the minimum emission standard. The locals burn their rubbish which includes burning plastic. Everywhere is pretty much the rubbish bin for many locals. Infrastructures are not well maintained. Definitely not a picturesque city except for the trees planted in city ce
⭐️ All 💵 Cost 📡 😀 Fun 👮 Safety 🌥 Feels 44° 111° 33° 91°🥵AQI 63✈️21min$1,026 / mo7MbpsPutrajaya is the only place I would recommend due to its close proximity to the airport. The Shaftsbury Hotel is modern with two convenience stores, pharmacy, restaurants, dental, and more in the actual building. There is a rain fountain in "mall" of the building that would be Putrajaya's attempt at Singapore's airport one. The location is also literally right across from the bigger mall that has restaurants, international grocery store, movie theater, bowling, electronics, etc. It's a safe a
⭐️ All 💵 Cost 📡 😀 Fun 👮 Safety 🌤 Feels 42° 108° 31° 87°🥵AQI 63✈️2h$1,679 / mo11Mbps⭐️ All 💵 Cost 📡 😀 Fun 👮 Safety 🌥 Feels 39° 102° 30° 85°🥵AQI 60✈️43min$880 / mo9MbpsI've been to Bangkok for almost two weeks now and I can't understand comments about the lack of soul or everything being on sale. Sure, there are some sketchy parts like massage parlour touts and an occasional ladyboy here and there, but overall my impression is that it's just a regular big city with some clear advantages. Coming from Central Europe, I find everybody to be very calm and polite. Some may argue it's just a facade and fair enough, but I prefer a calm and kind facade over cold and i
⭐️ All 💵 Cost 📡 😀 Fun 👮 Safety 🌧 Feels 25° 77° 25° 77°AQI 57✈️4h$1,880 / mo17MbpsWas really looking forward to Hua Hin after everything we had read. On the plus side, everything is very accessible and of course loads of high quality Thai food everywhere, mixed in with a bunch of expat options. Found the western-style markets and prices in general to be considerably more (in relative terms) than Bangkok. I imagine this is due to the large expat community here. Having said that, Covid has decimated the place and many expats have left. As an example, it’s Friday evening here
⭐️ All 💵 Cost 📡 😀 Fun 👮 Safety 🌧 Feels 36° 97° 29° 84°🥵AQI 25✈️3h$2,465 / mo23MbpsArrived yesterday, at Dreambase coworking now. A fascinating city in the sense that is seems strange, eerie, and sullen. It feels like the city was abandoned for 30 years and what remains is the population that decided to stay. Many random empty, lonely buildings. Patches of busyness dispersed in between patches of nullness. Everything feels just a little bit too far to walk. Grab works fine here for getting around. Extremely affordable. But so far it definitely doesn't feel like the place to be
⭐️ All 💵 Cost 📡 😀 Fun 👮 Safety 🌧 Feels 39° 102° 30° 86°🥵AQI 40✈️2h$1,488 / mo13MbpsThe noise pollution here is insane. The prayer calls from the mosques seem to reverberate throughout Penang. Seems like they are competing for who can be the loudest. This really ruined Penang for me and I cut my time short.
⭐️ All 💵 Cost 📡 😀 Fun 👮 Safety 🌧 Feels 40° 104° 30° 85°🥵AQI 37✈️2h$988 / mo13MbpsSkip this place and go to Bali right away. This city only looks beautiful in tourism videos but ugly in person. It is dusty and smelly.
⭐️ All 💵 Cost 📡 😀 Fun 👮 Safety 🌥 Feels 41° 106° 31° 89°🥵AQI 87😷✈️34min$1,574 / mo🌇 Also went here49 peopleOverpriced and overhyped. Back in 2017 when Canggu got the lead on a site like this, landprices went 10x. Then came the covid situation and now the Balinese like to earn their loses over the last 2 years back in 1 day, which was yesterday. Rape tourism was mentioned not once. In a review below the diversity of restaurants is mentioned and how good the food is, maybe this person was on a holiday for a few weeks and didn't have to cook and didn't eat for months, but the fact remains - Bali is an
⭐️ All 💵 Cost 📡 😀 Fun 👮 Safety 🌥 Feels 35° 95° 29° 85°🥵AQI 55✈️43min$1,907 / mo🌇 Also went here42 peopleHonestly, this is an awesome place to be if you're actually trying to get work done. It's a bit of an older vibe than Canggu, and there's certainly a big chunk of yogi's kicking around — but I liked it much better than Canggu and found it less pretentious. Plus, you can drive down there in 45mins whenever you want some beach or party vibes. As others mentioned, there's some great coworking spaces, cheap warungs, some really nice spots to stay cheaply if you go just outside of the mad tourist
⭐️ All 💵 Cost 📡 😀 Fun 👮 Safety 🌥 Feels 39° 102° 30° 85°🥵AQI 55✈️44min$1,961 / mo🌇 Also went here45 peopleFeels like living in the future because of how wealthy, clean, modern, efficient, and organized it is. Probably the most "developed" city I've visited. And amenities everywhere... you're never more than 10 minutes walk away from a shopping mall or park. Only downsides are the extreme heat and humidity and very small homes compared to American standards. Yes it's very expensive but if you live like a local it's mostly housing that's a big expense.
⭐️ All 💵 Cost 📡 😀 Fun 👮 Safety 🌧 Feels 36° 97° 29° 85°🥵AQI 42✈️2h$5,020 / mo🌇 Also went here58 peoplePutrajaya is the only place I would recommend due to its close proximity to the airport. The Shaftsbury Hotel is modern with two convenience stores, pharmacy, restaurants, dental, and more in the actual building. There is a rain fountain in "mall" of the building that would be Putrajaya's attempt at Singapore's airport one. The location is also literally right across from the bigger mall that has restaurants, international grocery store, movie theater, bowling, electronics, etc. It's a safe a
⭐️ All 💵 Cost 📡 😀 Fun 👮 Safety 🌤 Feels 42° 108° 31° 87°🥵AQI 63✈️2h$1,679 / mo🌇 Also went here46 peopleI liked Ho Chi Minh City a lot. It has all of the convivences one could expect from the city except for an MRT system which as of September 2022, they are in the middle of building one anyway. Things are affordable although I have noticed a tamer street food scene compared to other places in Vietnam like Hanoi. Seems to be making more room for higher end dining but affordability is still easy. HCMC without a doubt has some great nightlife, so party animals are going to be very happy here. I am s
⭐️ All 💵 Cost 📡 😀 Fun 👮 Safety 🌧 Feels 38° 100° 29° 84°🥵AQI 38✈️3h$1,337 / mo🌇 Also went here33 peopleI've been to Bangkok for almost two weeks now and I can't understand comments about the lack of soul or everything being on sale. Sure, there are some sketchy parts like massage parlour touts and an occasional ladyboy here and there, but overall my impression is that it's just a regular big city with some clear advantages. Coming from Central Europe, I find everybody to be very calm and polite. Some may argue it's just a facade and fair enough, but I prefer a calm and kind facade over cold and i
⭐️ All 💵 Cost 📡 😀 Fun 👮 Safety 🌧 Feels 25° 77° 25° 77°AQI 57✈️4h$1,880 / mo🌇 Also went here49 peopleChiang Mai used to be N.1 for the digital nomad life. It is still great and you can find really cheap apartments (300-400$) and restaurants (2-3$ for a main). Wouldn't recommend staying there during the burning season. The best area is Nimman, but it's also the most expensive. You can stay in the old city that's very nice but that gets noisy during the weekend for the night markets. Last but not least, very safe city. All in all would go back in a heartbeat.
⭐️ All 💵 Cost 📡 😀 Fun 👮 Safety 🌤 Feels 39° 102° 30° 86°🥵AQI 57✈️4h$1,178 / mo🌇 Also went here31 peopleTokyo has so much to offer and so much to do. It is easily overwhelming. Whereas I usually take my first week to explore a place Tokyo’s sights just kept on going. I remember ending up in a hidden cocktail bar, a mexican rooftop party with 1 meter margaritas, spending a whole day going only to French places(?), visiting a store that only imported 2nd hand hiphop apparel, and throughout it all the best michelin star ramen. It just seemed endless, completely unrelated and incredibly fun. Six wee
⭐️ All 💵 Cost 📡 😀 Fun 👮 Safety 🌧 Feels 25° 77° 25° 76°AQI 55✈️8h$3,677 / mo🌇 Also went here29 peopleBerlin is overall a great city to be. Food is cheap and everywhere, easy to go out and have fun/meet for business. Rent has crept up but still far better value than where I came from. Internet: 36 EUR/month get me 450/40 mbps (cable -> DOCSIS 3.0) Public transport is 2.70 EUR/ticket. No woman I know has said they felt unsafe. Some really odd, xenophobic sounding comments on here. Biggest downsides IMO: service quality at restaurants - not that people are rude, but they don't seem to particular
⭐️ All 💵 Cost 📡 😀 Fun 👮 Safety 🌥 Feels 13° 55° 13° 56°AQI 26✈️15h$3,880 / mo🌇 Also went here30 peopleLived there last September and October and am coming back later this year. Yes, it is expensive, but after a while I learned about affordable places to eat and realized I could choose neighborhoods farther from city center, and it would still be nice. City feels super safe, even at nigh! Internet is crazy fast (I got 500mb on my airbnb) there are tons to do and see and I did not encounter the super rude Parisians people talk so much about, mostly everyone spoke English and were very polite. Rent
⭐️ All 💵 Cost 📡 😀 Fun 👮 Safety 🌥 Feels 15° 59° 15° 59°AQI 23✈️16h$5,734 / mo🌇 Also went here30 peopleOne of the best cities in Europe. Beautiful, wide streets, perfect weather. Huge tech scene & everything you can imagine. Food is next level. You can take the train and in 20 mins you will be in a nice uncrowded beach. The airport is a massive hub to go anywhere. FC Barcelona, huge huge football atmosphere. Tons of beautiful coworkings. Internet is ultra fast. Prices are expensive, but so is everything right now :(
⭐️ All 💵 Cost 📡 😀 Fun 👮 Safety 🌧 Feels 22° 72° 22° 72°AQI 24✈️16h$4,650 / mo🌇 Also went here35 peopleHow did you guys classified Penge as rich? It is one of the worst neighbourhood I have ever been in London, the ammount of people I know that have been robbed there is appalling.
⭐️ All 💵 Cost 📡 😀 Fun 👮 Safety 🌥 Feels 16° 61° 15° 59°AQI 38✈️16h$5,129 / mo🌇 Also went here32 peopleHow did SF get scored #98 on Nomad score? I agree with most of the reviews posted here. I generally work from home, but we recently rented a small conference room for a meeting. It was $250 per hour.. (yes Per Hour... no typos here).
⭐️ All 💵 Cost 📡 😀 Fun 👮 Safety 🌥 Feels 18° 64° 18° 64°AQI 19✈️18h$6,871 / mo🌇 Also went here33 peopleI've lived in New York City - Brooklyn - for over 20 years. For visiting tourists, the best neighborhood to stay in is NOT Bushwick. Park Slope, Prospect Heights, Ft. Green or Brooklyn Heights is preferable. Plenty of good transportation in those areas - subway, buses or Uber. Easy access to beaches in Long Island and New Jersey. There's plenty to do in NYC. Great restaurants, Broadway plays (!), and in the summer you frequently can catch a free concert.
⭐️ All 💵 Cost 📡 😀 Fun 👮 Safety 🌦 Feels 21° 70° 20° 67°AQI 21✈️22h$6,739 / mo🌇 Also went here30 people
