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Bangkok

32ยฐC
Thailand
 8 Jan '169d17 Jan '1617 Jan '16
8 Jan '16

Lisbon

14ยฐC
Portugal
2015
 26 Nov '152mo24 Jan '1624 Jan '16
26 Nov '15

Paris

10ยฐC
France
 21 Nov '155d26 Nov '1526 Nov '15
21 Nov '15

Taghazout

28ยฐC
Morocco
 5 Aug '154mo21 Nov '1521 Nov '15
5 Aug '15

Paris

25ยฐC
France
 15 Jul '1521d5 Aug '155 Aug '15
15 Jul '15

Berlin

23ยฐC
Germany
 19 Jun '156d25 Jun '1525 Jun '15
19 Jun '15

Bangkok

35ยฐC
Thailand
 12 Jun '157d19 Jun '1519 Jun '15
12 Jun '15

Krabi

32ยฐC
Thailand
 11 Jun '151d12 Jun '1512 Jun '15
11 Jun '15

Kuala Lumpur

33ยฐC
Malaysia
 7 Jun '154d11 Jun '1511 Jun '15
7 Jun '15

Kota Kinabalu

33ยฐC
Malaysia
 28 May '1510d7 Jun '157 Jun '15
28 May '15

Cebu

32ยฐC
Philippines
 22 May '156d28 May '1528 May '15
22 May '15

Kuala Lumpur

33ยฐC
Malaysia
 24 Mar '152mo22 May '1522 May '15
24 Mar '15

Ho Chi Minh City

34ยฐC
Vietnam
 5 Mar '1518d23 Mar '1523 Mar '15
5 Mar '15

Canggu, Bali

31ยฐC
Indonesia
 5 Jan '152mo4 Mar '154 Mar '15
5 Jan '15

Bangkok

32ยฐC
Thailand
2014
 6 Dec '141d7 Dec '147 Dec '14
6 Dec '14

Boston, MA

2ยฐC
United States
 21 Nov '143d24 Nov '1424 Nov '14
21 Nov '14

Chicago, IL

8ยฐC
United States
 14 Nov '143d17 Nov '1417 Nov '14
14 Nov '14

Washington, DC

15ยฐC
United States
 23 Oct '148d31 Oct '1431 Oct '14
23 Oct '14

Hong Kong

28ยฐC
China
2013
 1 Nov '1312mo23 Oct '1423 Oct '14
1 Nov '13

Montreal

6ยฐC
Canada
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  • Canada
    ๐ŸŽ’ Nomad Score
    3.22 5
    10916 reviews
    ๐Ÿ’ต Cost
    okay
    ๐Ÿ“ก Internet
    good
    ๐Ÿ˜€ Fun
    okay
    ๐Ÿ‘ฎ Safety
    good
    Tap to Open

    ๐ŸŒง Feels 16.5°62°16°61.37°AQI21
    12mo
    $2,732 / mo
    17Mbps
  • France
    ๐ŸŽ’ Nomad Score
    3.09 5
    6544 reviews
    ๐Ÿ’ต Cost
    bad
    ๐Ÿ“ก Internet
    great
    ๐Ÿ˜€ Fun
    okay
    ๐Ÿ‘ฎ Safety
    okay
    Tap to Open

    ๐ŸŒฅ Feels 25°77°22°72.15°AQI26
    6mo
    $3,123 / mo
    24Mbps
  • Thailand
    ๐ŸŽ’ Nomad Score
    3.33 5
    6470 reviews
    ๐Ÿ’ต Cost
    good
    ๐Ÿ“ก Internet
    good
    ๐Ÿ˜€ Fun
    okay
    ๐Ÿ‘ฎ Safety
    okay
    Tap to Open

    ๐ŸŒฅ Feels 50°122°35°94.89°AQI31
    3mo
    $1,276 / mo
    17Mbps
  • Vietnam
    ๐ŸŽ’ Nomad Score
    3.49 5
    3266 reviews
    ๐Ÿ’ต Cost
    good
    ๐Ÿ“ก Internet
    bad
    ๐Ÿ˜€ Fun
    good
    ๐Ÿ‘ฎ Safety
    okay
    Tap to Open

    ๐ŸŒฅ Feels 44°111°33°92.08°AQI39
    2mo
    $933 / mo
    6Mbps
  • Germany
    ๐ŸŽ’ Nomad Score
    3.18 5
    8596 reviews
    ๐Ÿ’ต Cost
    bad
    ๐Ÿ“ก Internet
    great
    ๐Ÿ˜€ Fun
    okay
    ๐Ÿ‘ฎ Safety
    good
    Tap to Open

    ๐ŸŒฅ Feels 24°75°21°69.27°AQI25
    21d
    $2,906 / mo
    28Mbps
  • Indonesia
    ๐ŸŽ’ Nomad Score
    3.24 5
    7518 reviews
    ๐Ÿ’ต Cost
    good
    ๐Ÿ“ก Internet
    bad
    ๐Ÿ˜€ Fun
    okay
    ๐Ÿ‘ฎ Safety
    okay
    Tap to Open

    ๐ŸŒง Feels 43°109°33°90.74°AQI37
    18d
    $851 / mo
    8Mbps
  • Malaysia
    ๐ŸŽ’ Nomad Score
    3.34 5
    1878 reviews
    ๐Ÿ’ต Cost
    good
    ๐Ÿ“ก Internet
    okay
    ๐Ÿ˜€ Fun
    okay
    ๐Ÿ‘ฎ Safety
    okay
    Tap to Open

    ๐ŸŒง Feels 52°126°35°94.68°AQI25
    11d
    $885 / mo
    11Mbps
  • Philippines
    ๐ŸŽ’ Nomad Score
    3.13 5
    3226 reviews
    ๐Ÿ’ต Cost
    good
    ๐Ÿ“ก Internet
    bad
    ๐Ÿ˜€ Fun
    good
    ๐Ÿ‘ฎ Safety
    bad
    Tap to Open

    ๐ŸŒฅ Feels 44°111°34°92.56°AQI32
    10d
    $1,342 / mo
    6Mbps
  • ๐Ÿ›ฌ Frequent visits

  • Bangkok
    ๐ŸŽ’ Nomad Score
    4.71 5
    229 reviews
    ๐Ÿ’ต Cost
    good
    ๐Ÿ“ก Internet
    great
    ๐Ÿ˜€ Fun
    good
    ๐Ÿ‘ฎ Safety
    good
    Tap to Open

    Bangkok has some of the best private hospitals in the world. Which is interesting if you're in Asia a lot and you want medical care better than you can get in your home country. Bumrungrad Hospital in Bangkok is ranked #7 in the world. I did an executive health checkup there and it was great. Prices range from $250 to $750 depending on how many checks you want. You can get blood count, X Ray, ultrasound, hormone check, etc. They also have most other medical disciplines. I also got vaccinations renewed. The hospital is private so it's so much better than the overloaded public healthcare systems of Europe, Canada and UK where everyone tries to avoid helping you, is overworked and angry. In Bangkok they're super nice and helpful and you can make appointments straight with a specialist. Not blocked by a GP like in your home country.

    ๐ŸŒค Feels 56°133°37°98.45°AQI44
    3x
    $1,443 / mo
    21Mbps
  • Kuala Lumpur
    ๐ŸŽ’ Nomad Score
    3.79 5
    198 reviews
    ๐Ÿ’ต Cost
    good
    ๐Ÿ“ก Internet
    okay
    ๐Ÿ˜€ Fun
    bad
    ๐Ÿ‘ฎ Safety
    okay
    Tap to Open

    It's hot and always cloudy lack of good & delicious food good co-working spaces are available with good internet if grab doesn't work for you, use gocar

    ๐ŸŒง Feels 57°135°36°96.95°AQI36
    2x
    $1,235 / mo
    11Mbps
  • Paris
    ๐ŸŽ’ Nomad Score
    3.14 5
    219 reviews
    ๐Ÿ’ต Cost
    very bad
    ๐Ÿ“ก Internet
    great
    ๐Ÿ˜€ Fun
    good
    ๐Ÿ‘ฎ Safety
    okay
    Tap to Open

    Not a very "freelance/artist" friendly city. The look of someone working inside a coffeeshop is still unusual and unappreciated. Extremely not accessible and not disable friendly (Metro, bus, building, coffeeshops and restaurants...)

    ๐ŸŒฅ Feels 26°79°24°74.88°AQI44
    2x
    $4,089 / mo
    24Mbps
  • Montreal
    ๐ŸŽ’ Nomad Score
    3.73 5
    201 reviews
    ๐Ÿ’ต Cost
    okay
    ๐Ÿ“ก Internet
    good
    ๐Ÿ˜€ Fun
    okay
    ๐Ÿ‘ฎ Safety
    good
    Tap to Open

    Montreal is truly one of my favourite cities in the Americas hands down. Lots of great restaurants, rent is still affordable here. The winter can be a bit rough, but frankly it's part of the charm. The mountain in the heart of the city really adds to the layers. A great place to be a bohemian and and a metropolis with one foot in Europe. I have been here for 3 years, and live in a mostly english speaking neighbourhood of NDG.

    ๐ŸŒง Feels 16°61°16°60.1°AQI32
    1x
    $2,187 / mo
    16Mbps
  • Hong Kong
    ๐ŸŽ’ Nomad Score
    3.59 5
    217 reviews
    ๐Ÿ’ต Cost
    bad
    ๐Ÿ“ก Internet
    good
    ๐Ÿ˜€ Fun
    great
    ๐Ÿ‘ฎ Safety
    good
    Tap to Open

    It's possible to live in Hong Kong on the cheap. You've got to live far out in the New Territories, or on an outlying island. I spent a summer living happily on Lamma Island for ~$500USD/month in rent for one bedroom in a shared flat. Rent is really the only tricky part--everything else is relatively cheap.

    ๐ŸŒง Feels 25°77°22°71.27°๐Ÿ˜ทAQI79
    1x
    $3,205 / mo
    17Mbps
  • Washington
    ๐ŸŽ’ Nomad Score
    2.33 5
    198 reviews
    ๐Ÿ’ต Cost
    very bad
    ๐Ÿ“ก Internet
    great
    ๐Ÿ˜€ Fun
    good
    ๐Ÿ‘ฎ Safety
    good
    Tap to Open

    ๐ŸŒฅ Feels 34°93°30°85.1°AQI28
    1x
    $4,547 / mo
    50Mbps
  • Chicago
    ๐ŸŽ’ Nomad Score
    2.55 5
    221 reviews
    ๐Ÿ’ต Cost
    bad
    ๐Ÿ“ก Internet
    great
    ๐Ÿ˜€ Fun
    okay
    ๐Ÿ‘ฎ Safety
    good
    Tap to Open

    Amazing nightlife and possibly the best overall food scene in the states (lots of michelin-level restaurants at far lower prices than NYC/SF). Avoid the winter and you'll love your time Chicago. It's a city of neighborhoods, so do some research to find which area suits you best. Lots of creative types live/work in the west side (West Loop, Wicker Park, Bucktown, Logan Square, etc.)

    ๐ŸŒง Feels 12°54°12°53.39°AQI34
    1x
    $3,648 / mo
    61Mbps
  • Boston
    ๐ŸŽ’ Nomad Score
    2.65 5
    205 reviews
    ๐Ÿ’ต Cost
    very bad
    ๐Ÿ“ก Internet
    great
    ๐Ÿ˜€ Fun
    good
    ๐Ÿ‘ฎ Safety
    okay
    Tap to Open

    ๐ŸŒฅ Feels 48°10°50.52°AQI30
    1x
    $4,167 / mo
    34Mbps
  • ๐Ÿ›Œ Longest stays

  • Montreal
    ๐ŸŽ’ Nomad Score
    3.73 5
    201 reviews
    ๐Ÿ’ต Cost
    okay
    ๐Ÿ“ก Internet
    good
    ๐Ÿ˜€ Fun
    okay
    ๐Ÿ‘ฎ Safety
    good
    Tap to Open

    Montreal is truly one of my favourite cities in the Americas hands down. Lots of great restaurants, rent is still affordable here. The winter can be a bit rough, but frankly it's part of the charm. The mountain in the heart of the city really adds to the layers. A great place to be a bohemian and and a metropolis with one foot in Europe. I have been here for 3 years, and live in a mostly english speaking neighbourhood of NDG.

    ๐ŸŒง Feels 16°61°16°60.1°AQI32
    12mo
    $2,187 / mo
    16Mbps
  • Paris
    ๐ŸŽ’ Nomad Score
    3.14 5
    219 reviews
    ๐Ÿ’ต Cost
    very bad
    ๐Ÿ“ก Internet
    great
    ๐Ÿ˜€ Fun
    good
    ๐Ÿ‘ฎ Safety
    okay
    Tap to Open

    Not a very "freelance/artist" friendly city. The look of someone working inside a coffeeshop is still unusual and unappreciated. Extremely not accessible and not disable friendly (Metro, bus, building, coffeeshops and restaurants...)

    ๐ŸŒฅ Feels 26°79°24°74.88°AQI44
    6mo
    $4,089 / mo
    24Mbps
  • Bangkok
    ๐ŸŽ’ Nomad Score
    4.71 5
    229 reviews
    ๐Ÿ’ต Cost
    good
    ๐Ÿ“ก Internet
    great
    ๐Ÿ˜€ Fun
    good
    ๐Ÿ‘ฎ Safety
    good
    Tap to Open

    Bangkok has some of the best private hospitals in the world. Which is interesting if you're in Asia a lot and you want medical care better than you can get in your home country. Bumrungrad Hospital in Bangkok is ranked #7 in the world. I did an executive health checkup there and it was great. Prices range from $250 to $750 depending on how many checks you want. You can get blood count, X Ray, ultrasound, hormone check, etc. They also have most other medical disciplines. I also got vaccinations renewed. The hospital is private so it's so much better than the overloaded public healthcare systems of Europe, Canada and UK where everyone tries to avoid helping you, is overworked and angry. In Bangkok they're super nice and helpful and you can make appointments straight with a specialist. Not blocked by a GP like in your home country.

    ๐ŸŒค Feels 56°133°37°98.45°AQI44
    3mo
    $1,443 / mo
    21Mbps
  • Ho Chi Minh City
    ๐ŸŽ’ Nomad Score
    4.2 5
    199 reviews
    ๐Ÿ’ต Cost
    good
    ๐Ÿ“ก Internet
    bad
    ๐Ÿ˜€ Fun
    good
    ๐Ÿ‘ฎ Safety
    okay
    Tap to Open

    "omagad they like totally stole my iphone", "it's like the worst, everybody is like so aggressive" welcome to the Real World, maybe you now learn to appreciate your cosy first world country and stop bitching about your oppression and your rights. Ho Chi Minh is an awesome upcoming city. It has an original and still traditional look and vibe to it, interesting colors (check out japanese district) not swamped with brand shops (the local coffee shops dominate starbucks in terms of quality and design and some are open 24h !). The nightlife also has plenty of options and be sure to enjoy the view from a the many rooftop bars in the city. You get to see a city full of energetic, young people growing their country after a devastating war and under an authoritarian regime. You get a choice between older buildings in D1 or totally new apartment buildings in D2 all at great value prices. There are a lot of people coming here to work remotely and also to start businesses. Decent sports facilities readily available (check out mach's gym, UFC center). If you don't want to spend money on the gym you can always do a workout on one of the many parks that have bars for chalistenics available. However, beware the pollution and always wear a mask, especially in D1. This is the biggest con here in my opinion.

    ๐ŸŒฅ Feels 50°122°35°95.08°๐Ÿ˜ทAQI64
    2mo
    $1,011 / mo
    10Mbps
  • Berlin
    ๐ŸŽ’ Nomad Score
    4.49 5
    224 reviews
    ๐Ÿ’ต Cost
    bad
    ๐Ÿ“ก Internet
    great
    ๐Ÿ˜€ Fun
    great
    ๐Ÿ‘ฎ Safety
    good
    Tap to Open

    Been living in 3 different centrally located airbnb in Berlin (2018), each between 800 and 900โ‚ฌ per month for 40-45 sqm (we're two, so 400-450โ‚ฌ each). Each time a full flat and not a shared airbnb, legal now since some months (though it was always possible to get a full flat before as well). Internet was always between 15 and 50 mbps. I spend 100โ‚ฌ per week on food, including restaurants (pretty cheap here), check for Turkish market on Maybachufer and Turkish stores in Neukรถlln (I spend less on food here than in Chiang Mai!). Berlin is such an awesome place to live, very multicultural, very tolerant, many different neighborhoods, quite relaxed feeling, many parks, lakes all around. No need to speak German at all. Come over here, probably one one of the best place on earth ;) (written in Sept 2018)

    โ˜€๏ธ Feels 25°77°22°70.92°AQI26
    21d
    $2,906 / mo
    24Mbps
  • Canggu
    ๐ŸŽ’ Nomad Score
    5 5
    207 reviews
    ๐Ÿ’ต Cost
    good
    ๐Ÿ“ก Internet
    great
    ๐Ÿ˜€ Fun
    good
    ๐Ÿ‘ฎ Safety
    good
    Tap to Open

    Oppressively hot. Actually hard to find Balinesian food. There is a lot of overpriced, average, western, hipster food. People are incredibly kind and the Balinesian food is great when you can find it. The roads are ridiculously crowded while a lot of the restaurants, bars, and clubs were less than 30% full. Kind of sad for local business owners. Surrounding area is beautiful and relatively accessible. Aside from western food & beverage lodging, food and beverage can be very cost effective. Other parts of the island are better for experiencing the Balinesian life, but it is more of a challenge to mix socially with local people here than other places as most people work in service industries or agriculture. It is what it is. In the end, if you like oppressive heat & humidity, western millennial cuisine, crowded roads, and a small beach, this may be your place.

    ๐ŸŒฅ Feels 46°115°34°92.49°๐Ÿ˜ทAQI81
    18d
    $1,324 / mo
    20Mbps
  • Cebu
    ๐ŸŽ’ Nomad Score
    3.01 5
    209 reviews
    ๐Ÿ’ต Cost
    good
    ๐Ÿ“ก Internet
    very bad
    ๐Ÿ˜€ Fun
    good
    ๐Ÿ‘ฎ Safety
    okay
    Tap to Open

    By instant rock star status you mean the local idiots who point, laugh and stare and gossip in Bisaya? People are not friendly and should be kept at arm's length. Cebu is probably the best city in the Philippines though so all is not lost.

    ๐ŸŒฅ Feels 44°111°34°92.56°AQI19
    10d
    $1,342 / mo
    5Mbps
  • Lisbon
    ๐ŸŽ’ Nomad Score
    4.41 5
    212 reviews
    ๐Ÿ’ต Cost
    okay
    ๐Ÿ“ก Internet
    great
    ๐Ÿ˜€ Fun
    good
    ๐Ÿ‘ฎ Safety
    good
    Tap to Open

    Out of all the European places we lived in, Lisbon is our favorite and we plan on returning many times.

    ๐ŸŒฅ Feels 19°66°18°64.04°AQI30
    9d
    $1,963 / mo
    21Mbps
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